Behavioral Grooves Podcast

What happens when we enter a conversation with someone we assume is different from us? Social psychologist Claude Steele argues that the tension and nerves we feel may have less to do with prejudice than we think. In his new book, Churn, Claude explores how identity threats can affect our performance and relationships, why we fear being misjudged, and how empathy, listening, and understanding can help reduce that tension and foster trust. We discuss why context matters, how our attitudes can follow our behavior, and why “colorblindness” can make it harder to understand another person’s experience.

Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Claude Steele

[11:28] Does attitude follow behavior?

[15:02] What exactly is “churn”?

[20:12] The fear of being stereotyped

[30:21] Trust as the antidote to tension

[35:31] Can you really be “colorblind?”

[47:48] Barack Obama and the cross-identity bridge to understanding

[53:40] Why you need to look at circumstances

[1:01:58] Desert Island Music

[1:07:05] Grooving Session: Why our brains churn

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Churn: The Tension That Divides Us and How to Overcome It

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Miles Davis & Gil Evans - The Duke

Stevie Wonder - Don’t You Worry ‘Bout A Thing

How does culture shape the way we think, behave, and interact with one another? In this episode, anthropologist Oliver Sweet explores the hidden social rules that influence human behavior, from communication and cultural norms to social media, artificial intelligence, and changing generational values. We discuss the psychology and anthropology of culture, how "vibe shifts" emerge, whether technology is making us more narcissistic, and what AI could mean for collaboration, empathy, creativity, and human connection.

Topics
[0:00] Intro & Speed Round with Oliver Sweet

[7:54] Can You Be Too Fat for an Imaginary Boat?

[13:08] The Hidden Rules That Shape Our Behavior

[18:47] How Social Norms Change Over Time

[21:14] What Is a "Vibe Shift"?

[28:23] AI, Social Media & Culture

[32:37] The Return of Subliminal Messaging

[36:53] AI and the Rise of Digital Narcissism

[46:51] How Technology Changes Risk-Taking

[52:17] Can Counterculture Predict the Future?

[58:56] What Happens When AI Replaces Human Connection?

[1:09:33] Grooving Session: The Reality and Illusions of AI

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About Oliver

The Rules That Make Us: How Culture Shapes the Way We Act, Think, Believe, and Buy by Oliver Sweet

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Who are you when no one is watching? We welcome author Patricia Martin to discuss how social media, algorithms, and AI are reshaping our sense of self. From persona fog and chronic self-doubt to the future of human agency, we explore what it means to build an authentic identity in an increasingly performative digital world.

Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Patricia Martin

[9:18] From Research to Me-Search

[13:10] Why the Self Has Become a Consumer Product

[19:24] Persona Fog, Self-Doubt & Cascading Crossroads

[24:13] Healthy Personas vs. Fracturing Online Identities

[31:30] The Self as Consumer Commodity

[36:07] Construction Not Subtraction

[43:33] Desert Island Music

[50:32] Grooving Session: To Thine Own Self Be True?

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About Patricia

Will the Future Like You? By Patricia Martin

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Aretha Franklin - Chain of Fools

Eminem - The Real Slim Shady

Why does modern life leave so many of us feeling disconnected? We explore the surprising evolutionary forces behind loneliness, autonomy, and technology, and share practical ways to build stronger relationships without giving up the conveniences of modern life.

Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Bill von Hippel

[11:09] Were hunter-gatherers actually happier?

[15:40] Why evolution favors connection over autonomy

[22:43] How cities created innovation (and loneliness)

[31:16] The cost of choosing autonomy

[37:57] Social media, AI, and the future of human connection

[47:56] Practical ways to create more community

[56:17] Evolutionary mismatches and modern fears

[1:02:23] Desert Island Music

[1:09:32] Grooving Session: Choose connection

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About Bill

The Social Paradox by Bill von Hippel

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Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run

Credence Clearwater Revival - Have You Ever Seen the Rain

What actually stops crime? Economist Jennifer Doleac joins us to explore the behavioral science behind safer communities, revealing why certainty of consequences, not harsher punishments, is the key to changing behavior and how evidence can lead to smarter criminal justice policy.

Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Jennifer Doleac

[9:15] How an economist found criminal justice

[13:56] Why DNA databases reduce crime

[16:53] Certainty vs. severity of punishment

[21:11] Redemption, incentives, and justice

[25:05] Second chances for first-time offenders

[30:50] Jobs, criminal records, and Ban the Box

[37:57] When good intentions backfire

[44:08] Rethinking prisons and parole

[50:24] Why evidence struggles to shape policy

[57:58] Desert Island Music

[1:00:30] Grooving Session - Reforming our criminal justice systems

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About Jennifer

The Science of Second Chances

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Miley Cyrus - Used to Be Young

Zach Bryan - I Remember Everything