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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

Harry Stebbings
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
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  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Nebius Co-Founder on AI Infrastructure Bubbles | The Real Impact of Open Source on OpenAI & Anthropic | How Price Elastic is Demand for Compute | Could Nebius Sell 10x More Compute If They Had It & more with Roman Chernin

    07/06/2026 | 1 h 6 min
    Roman Chernin is Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer of Nebius, one of the fastest-growing AI infrastructure companies in the world. Today, Nebius operates some of the largest AI compute clusters globally and serves leading AI labs, enterprises, and developers. Today, Nebius has a market cap of $57BN. 
    AGENDA: 
    00:00 — Why AI Infrastructure Is Not a Bubble
    05:00 — The Real Impact of Open Source on OpenAI & Anthropic
    11:00 — Jevons Paradox: Why Cheaper AI Creates More Demand
    13:00 — The Four Layers of AI Infrastructure Explained
    19:00 — If Nebius Had 10x More Capacity Tomorrow
    26:00 — The Shift from Training to Inference and Agents
    31:00 — How Token Factory Cuts AI Costs by 70%
    44:00 — Sovereign AI, Europe, and the Future of Model Building
    49:00 — Competing Against Hyperscalers with 10x More Capital
    59:00 — The Biggest Threat to Nebius Isn't Competition—It's Consolidation
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora

    06/06/2026 | 54 min
    Jacob Lauritzen serves as the CTO at Legora, the fastest growing B2B enterprise company in history; hitting $100 million in ARR in just 18 months . Legora boasts a valuation of $5.6BN and has raised a total of $866 million in funding. Legora's investors include the likes of Accel, Benchmark, and Bessemer Venture Partners, alongside strategic tech giants NVIDIA (NVentures) and Salesforce Ventures.
    AGENDA: 
    05:01 - How to Hire the Best Product Talent in 2026

    06:21 - The New Product Bottleneck: Shifting Beyond Code Creation

    09:24 - System Design vs. Code Creation: The Future Role of the Engineer

    14:04 - The Evolving Software Development Lifecycle & The Death of the Design Phase

    22:23 - Will Product and Engineering Fully Converge?

    29:16 - Scalability and UX: Designing for 10x vs. 100x Spikes

    38:15 - Scaling the Organization: What Breaks with a 250 Person Product Team

    47:05 - Quick-Fire Round: Hyper-Growth Tactics & Out-Working the Giants
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Anthropic Files to Go Public | Token Budgeting Panic Hits Corporate America | Cognition Raises $1BN at $26BN Valuation | Apollo Warns PE Software Returns Will be Disastrous | The 9-9-6 Work Ethic: Performative Theatre or Startup Reality?

    04/06/2026 | 1 h 34 min
    AGENDA:
    00:00:00 — Private Markets Are "F***ing Done" & The Shift to Heavy CapEx
    00:00:46 — Anthropic Files to Go Public 
    00:04:59 — Will the Anthropic IPO Break the Startup Ecosystem?
    00:06:22 — The "Billion-Dollar Position" Era: VCs Reset Their Expectations
    00:18:11 — The Trillion-Dollar Cash Grab: Google, SpaceX, and OpenAI Rush the Queue
    00:23:15 — Is the SaaS Apocalypse Over? Bouncing Off the Bottom
    00:25:34 — The Death of Human Per-Seat Licenses as Multiples Shift
    00:27:18 — Winners vs. Losers: How Agentic Focused Products Captured the Market
    00:30:26 — Cognition Raises $1 Billion at a $26 Billion Valuation
    00:33:04 — Token Budgeting Panic Hits Corporate America
    00:35:46 — Multi-Model Workflows and the Future of Cost Containment
    00:41:20 — Choosing Tokens Over Humans: The 2027 Engineering Reality Check
    00:46:42 — Can Large Companies Survive Slashing One-Third of Their Engineering Talent?
    00:57:40 — Big Law Flex: Kirkland & Ellis Pledges $500 Million to Build In-House AI
    01:01:21 — Giving Away the Crown Jewels: Will Firms Trust Claude?
    01:08:44 — Robinhood's AI Move: Automating Financial Planning vs. Beating the Market
    01:16:15 — Apollo Warns PE Software Returns Are About to Be Disastrous
    01:19:15 — $10 Billion Carry Pools: Will VC Winners Quit the Game?
    01:24:10 — The 9-9-6 Work Ethic: Performative Theatre or Startup Reality?
    01:30:10 — The Great Valley Contradiction: Working 24/7 to Automate White-Collar Work
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Mercor CEO on Why Application Layer Companies Have No Defensibility, The Model is the Product | Token Spend Will Exceed Headcount Spend in 5 Years | The True Cost of Hiring AI Researchers in the Valley Today with Brendan Foody

    01/06/2026 | 1 h 15 min
    Brendan Foody is the Founder and CEO @ Mercor, one of the leading data providers to the largest labs on the planet including OpenAI. In the last two years, Brendan has scaled the company to $1.5BN in ARR and a valuation of $10BN. 
    AGENDA: 
    True or False:
    Mercor lost Meta and OpenAI as a customer with the hack?

    Mercor has been poaching competitor talent, paying them millions? 

    Mercor revenue is not real revenue and is only GMV?

    12:56 Would Brendan sell Mercor for $30 billion? 
    14:23 Why everyone is wrong that AI will lead to labor displacement?
    15:59 We will create many new jobs that do not exist with AI. 
    16:59 Why training agents will be a massive labor category that does not exist today 
    19:51 Will we see the data provider market unbundle and specialize into verticals? 
    22:24 Is the stated revenue really revenue or is it really GMV? 
    27:55 How a 1 million ARR company secured one of the best investors in the world with a helicopter ride 
    29:41 How Felicis secured the deal of the decade with a race track and a set of Ferraris 
    32:59 Which investment round felt like the highest price to grow into? 
    34:49 Why will value accrue to the infrastructure layer, not the application layer, in the next 12 months? 
    35:46 Why the model is the product and why application layer companies should be scared as a result 
    37:22 Why network effects will be the determinant of value creation 
    38:46 Why the forward-deployed motion, not the GTM motion, will determine true value creation. 
    41:59 Why token spend within organizations is going to continue to increase 
    43:54 Why agent evaluation to commoditize the model layer will be a massive business for enterprises? 
    51:13 Why we should have increased capital gains tax 
    01:01:31 How to compete with $20 million a year from Meta? 
    01:08:49 Will Mercor go public and when?
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Corgi Insurance: The Most Intense Workplace Culture in America: 7 Days Per Week, Founder Sleeps in Office, Corgi Cafe Open 24 Hours a Day, 60% of First 30 Employees Have Corgi Tattoos | The Journey from $0 to $2.6BN Valuation in Just 2 Years

    30/05/2026 | 53 min
    Nico Laqua is the Co-Founder and CEO of Corgi Insurance, an AI-native insurance carrier built for startups. Corgi is the most intense workplace culture in America. The team works 7 days per week. The founder sleeps in the office. ⅔ of the first 30 team members have a Corgi tattoo. This week, Corgi raised $106M, valuing the company at a whopping $2.6BN. 
    AGENDA: 
    06:35 Why going to university was a massive waste of time 
    09:42 Why we work seven days a week 
    11:58 Why we do work trials and how that is a test of people's stamina 
    18:41 Why we created a cafe in the biggest annoyance with San Francisco 
    22:00 Why I am so bullish on London 
    23:49 Why I haven't sold a single secondary 
    24:19 Why people who found companies in New York prioritise dating over their company 
    30:46 Biggest lessons on cash comp and equity 
    31:13 Team members can be split into three separate groups 
    34:59 Biggest lesson from Brian Chesky on price 
    35:44 What is the right amount of time to be fundraising for? 
    36:47 Good companies get deals done and what makes the best venture investors? 
    40:34 Why AI makes sales and marketing more valuable 
    43:12 Why I don't like boards and I don't think they're effective 
    46:19 What I would like to see more of from venture funds 
    48:05 Who was Corgi's first believer?
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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.
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