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Today’s show:
Misha Laskin of Reflection AI joins Jason to explain why big companies are done renting their AI from closed labs. Enterprises want to keep their data, cut their costs, and tune their models to their unique businesses.
Reflection is launching its first open-weight model, Beam, just three months after acquiring its first big cluster. Misha admits that Beam trails the best Chinese open models by a couple of months, and needs 3 to 4 times fewer tokens to reach the same answer, but nonetheless, the race is on.
PLUS, Misha explains how “reward hacking” led that rogue OpenAI model to break out of its test sandbox and steal the answers from Hugging Face's servers. The model solved the problem, just not the way anyone intended.
There’s simply no way a few hundred safety researchers at closed labs can catch every flaw; open source is how software has always been made secure. It's also why he wants America to lead in open models again.
So how close is America to catching up to the Chinese open source leaders? Watch this brand new TWiST and find out.
Guests:
Misha Laskin on X: https://x.com/MishaLaskin
Reflection AI: https://reflection.ai/
Relevant Links:
Introducing Beam, Reflection's first open model (Reflection AI) → https://reflection.ai/blog/introducing-beam
Reflection AI unveils Beam as an open answer to Chinese labs (Semafor) → https://www.semafor.com/article/10/05/2026/reflection-ai-unveils-an-open-source-answer-to-chinese-labs
Cursor's Composer 2 coding model, built on an open model (VentureBeat) → https://venturebeat.com/technology/cursors-new-coding-model-composer-2-is-here-it-beats-claude-opus-4-6-but
micro1 passes $1 billion annual run rate, mentioned by Jason → https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/949082966/micro1-end-of-q3-update
Hackers heat French supermarket fridges, sparking fires and spoiling food (CNN) → https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/12/europe/france-supermarket-cyberattack-fridges-intl
Hugging Face postmortem on the OpenAI agent that broke out of its sandbox → https://huggingface.co/blog/agent-intrusion-technical-timeline
NVIDIA OpenShell, an open-source sandbox for AI agents → https://docs.nvidia.com/openshell/latest/about/overview.html
Timestamps:
0:00 Why companies are switching from renting AI to owning it
9:10 How Reflection sells the whole AI stack
10:24 Paper is the legal backbone for thousands of startup founders and fund managers - including Launch. Use getpaper.ai/twist to get your cap table free for a year - or two years if you're leaving Carta.
11:28 Who is moving AI onto their own servers
14:37 What it took to train Beam
20:26 Superhuman Go is an AI chat that's always there when you need it, already aware of what you're doing, and doesn't ask you to start from zero. Sign up to get the best in AI at https://superhuman.com/
21:29 How reinforcement learning tasks get built
26:41 Hackers heat French supermarket fridges
29:07 The AI that broke out of its sandbox to cheat
31:05 The all-in-one business platform. Your first app is free! Get started today at https://Odoo.com/twist
33:10 Why open source makes software safer
38:13 The encryption fight and Tim Cook's stand
42:53 Why China raced ahead in open models
47:35 How Beam stacks up against Chinese models
50:21 When American open models catch up
58:39 Staying independent
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Today’s show:
At packed concerts, festivals, and stadiums, your phone gets WORSE with every person who shows up. Totem gets better.
Carter Fowler of Totem joins Alex to explain how his screen-free compass points you straight to your friends without relying on cell towers. Find out why Carter says Apple will never ship this in an iPhone, and why kids, ski patrols, and blind users have become some of his most loyal fans.
PLUS, Lon and Alex dig into the archives for Jason's 2017 CES interview with Ring founder Jamie Siminoff, a year before Amazon bought the company. Jamie explains how a doorbell he couldn't hear in his garage became Ring, and why a strong mission is "cheating" when it comes to keeping a team focused. Then he tells Jason he wants to take Ring public, not sell it. Ironic because about a year later, Amazon bought it. And get ready for some hot takes on neighborhood license-plate cameras, years before the anti-Flock backlash.
Guests:
Carter Fowler on X: https://x.com/Carter_S_Fowler
Totem: https://totemlabs.com
Jamie Siminoff on X: https://x.com/JamieSiminoff
Ring: https://ring.com
Relevant Links:
Totem Compass, the offline friend-finding compass → https://totemlabs.com
Totem closes its $1.3M pre-seed round (Business Wire) → https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250212385814/en/Totem-Closes-%241.3M-in-Pre-Seed-Funding-to-Scale-Operations-for-Explosive-Demand
Totem's community crowdfunding round → https://wefunder.com/totemlabs
Totem's record Lost Lands deployment last year (Business Wire) → https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20251009622355/en
The Innovator's Dilemma by Clayton Christensen, mentioned by Alex → https://www.amazon.com/dp/1633691780
Original TWiST Interview with Jamie from 2017 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puP_D3k7vVI
Amazon officially closes its Ring acquisition in 2018 (TechCrunch) → https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/12/amazon-officially-owns-ring-so-lets-talk-product-integration/
Ring calls off its Flock Safety partnership after the Super Bowl ad backlash (Engadget) → https://engadget.com/home/ring-calls-off-partnership-with-police-surveillance-provider-flock-safety-031717605.html
Flock Safety plans to cut about 18% of its staff (Reuters via The Star) → https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2026/10/09/exclusive-ai-surveillance-startup-flock-safety-to-cut-several-hundred-jobs-amid-backlash-sources-say
Timestamps:
0:00 Totem, an offline compass for finding friends at festivals
0:31 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations - interviews, meetings, calls - you need a Plaud NotePin S. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!
4:27 Why phones fail in big crowds
6:42 How more devices make the mesh network stronger
9:07 Why Totem beats phone GPS in a crowd
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13:34 Why Apple won't build this into the iPhone
18:10 Raising money for hardware in an AI world
22:10 NetSuite: For the first time ever, you can try NetSuite Next for free. If your revenues are at least in the seven figures, go to https://netsuite.ai/twist
23:08 Turning crowd movement into a predictive model
28:04 Rentals, kids and accessibility use cases
32:22 The Conservation Fund: Find out more about how The Conservation Fund is protecting land, wildlife, and our shared access to the great outdoors while also providing economic opportunities. Visit https://conservationfund.org.
35:47 Mesh networks on the front lines in Ukraine
38:01 Flashback to Jason and Ring's Jamie Siminoff at CES 2017
41:44 Roasting Jamie's earlier startups
48:26 How a doorbell in the garage became Ring
53:34 Why you should always bet on your friends
1:02:21 Why a strong mission is cheating
1:07:45 Selling to Amazon versus going public
1:12:09 License plate readers and the Flock backlash
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Today’s show:
AssetHub built an AI agent that recreates licensed characters in 3D while respecting copyright rules... But Jason says he needs to think BIGGER. 11 founders pitched their companies to Jason and Yuki Shirato of Techstars Tokyo at our Osaka event this week, and neither investor held back.
Find out why Jason says Seekr feels more like a vitamin than a painkiller, and needs to ditch the press mentions from their deck. Plus, a vital lesson for founders: if everyone already knows about the problem you're solving, investors expect a tight solution and business plan. Truly novel business ideas get more leeway. Japan's startup community is booming, with many recent grads bailing on lifelong gigs at major corporations to start companies. But here's why Yuki says the fear of failure is still holding back progress.
Guests:
Yuki Shirato on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuki-shirato
Techstars Tokyo: https://www.techstars.com/accelerators/tokyo
Founder Pitches:
Seekr: https://seekrai.global/product
Arabat: https://arabat.it/
AssetHub: https://assethub.io/
CRAZIA: https://crazia.co/
JuJuJuu: https://jujujuu.com/
JAPANMEDIA: https://lp.japanmedia.ai/
Tsuin AI: https://www.tsuin.ai
Rumi Light: https://www.rumilight.jp/
GENCHI: https://www.toraru.me/en
TattvaSilicon: https://tattvasilicon.com/
Mimi AI: https://nihongo-chat-ruby.vercel.app/onboarding
Relevant Links:
Founder University Japan, Jason's pre-accelerator program with JETRO → https://japan.founder.university/
Techstars Tokyo announces its Class of 2026 → https://www.techstars.com/newsroom/techstars-tokyo-accelerator-announces-class-of-2026
Yuki Shirato on why Japan should be on every founder's radar (Techstars) → https://www.techstars.com/blog/insights-and-trends/should-japan-be-on-your-radar-as-a-founder
How Techstars Tokyo is helping make Japan a global startup hub (The Japan Times) → https://www.japantimes.co.jp/2025/12/25/special-supplements/accelerating-business-ambitions-global-scale-techstars-tokyo/
VidiLabs, maker of the Seekr indoor positioning platform → https://seekrai.global/
Density, the people-counting sensor company Jason has backed for a decade → https://www.density.io
Arabat, recovering critical minerals from batteries with citrus and farm waste → https://arabat.it/
AssetHub raises a $2M seed for its AI 3D platform (The Bridge) → https://thebridge.jp/en/2025/08/aix3d-production-platform-assethub-raises-approximately-¥300-million-in-seed-funding
Seedance 2.0, the ByteDance AI video model Jason says fans are using to make Marvel shorts → https://seed.bytedance.com/en/blog/seedance-2-0-official-launch
Bending Spoons, the company Jason cites for buying apps and running them with tiny AI-powered teams (TechCrunch) → https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/31/what-is-bending-spoons-everything-to-know-about-aols-acquirer/
Burning Chrome by William Gibson, the source of “the street finds its own uses for things” → https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ICMWZH4/
Timestamps:
0:00 Jason's first trip to Japan and the food crawl
3:07 Why everyone in Japan acts like a founder
3:42 Founder University comes to Japan
8:44 Techstars Tokyo and Japan's push for global founders
10:28 Why Japanese startups stay on the island
12:44 Parents, lifetime jobs, and the fear of failure
15:13 How Japan mastered product market fit
18:43 Lightfield: Name one person who's ever enjoyed updating a CRM. Exactly. Lightfield's AI agent does it for you - it even prospects and books your meetings. Used by thousands of startups. Free at https://lightfield.app
20:10 The white lab coat and the man who named his daughter Cinnamon
25:05 Seekr: centimeter-precise indoor navigation
27:38 Why investors want the business case, not the press
28:21 Rippling: Thanks to our partners at Rippling! Head to https://Rippling.ai/twist and get the only AI built to give you full visibility across your startup and take complex actions across your entire business.
34:54 Arabat: recovering rare earths with orange peels
38:26 Getting from free pilots to paid pilots
38:38 Upwork: Upwork helps businesses find highly skilled freelance professionals for specialized work. Post your job for free at https://upwork.com
43:57 AssetHub: AI 3D models for anime and game IP
52:40 Come for the tool, stay for the marketplace
54:35 CRAZIA: turning customer conversations into growth
56:42 JuJuJuu: giving alternative protein the structure of steak
59:02 JAPANMEDIA: AI manga and anime at a fifth of the cost
1:01:24 Tsuin AI: AI twins that think and act like you
1:03:15 Picking the layup and the wild card
1:09:29 Rumi Light: faster data paths inside AI servers
1:11:40 GENCHI: a local avatar that shops Japan for you
1:13:51 TattvaSilicon: analog circuit design in a day
1:15:36 Mimi AI: learning to actually speak Japanese
1:17:51 Why a live shopping avatar is Jason's wild card
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Today’s show:
A personal AI agent that’s still invite-only just hit a $10 billion valuation. Guest host Deedy Das of Menlo Ventures is joined by Kanu Gulati of Khosla Ventures, Chris Farmer of SignalFire, and Sheel Mohnot of Better Tomorrow Ventures to debate whether Instinct can beat Meta’s Muse, what they actually use their own agents for, and what breaks when everyone’s agent makes the same move.
Plus we’re also talking about OpenAI’s math breakthroughs, the Factory vs. Cognition fight, and whether SaaS is still worth funding. Catch the whole debate on this week’s VC roundtable.
Guests:
Deedy Das on X: https://x.com/deedydas
Menlo Ventures: https://menlovc.com
Kanu Gulati on X: https://x.com/KanuGulati
Khosla Ventures: https://www.khoslaventures.com
Chris Farmer on X: https://x.com/chriswfarmer
SignalFire: https://www.signalfire.com
Sheel Mohnot on X: https://x.com/pitdesi
Better Tomorrow Ventures: https://www.btv.vc
Relevant Links:
OpenAI’s 722 math manuscripts from an unreleased internal model → https://github.com/openai/math
OpenAI’s earlier Navier–Stokes Millennium Prize result → https://openai.com/index/navier-stokes-solution/
Pramaana Labs, the Khosla-backed startup turning tax rules into provable logic → https://pramaanalabs.ai
Logos Research, the Imperial College spinout verifying AI-written financial code → https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/articles/2026/logos-research-plans-to-make-ai-reasoning-trustworthy-in-high-stakes-environments/
EvenUp, SignalFire’s AI company for personal injury law → https://www.evenuplaw.com/
WindBorne Systems, the Khosla-backed weather balloon company Kanu mentioned → https://windbornesystems.com
Gokul Rajaram’s X Post: https://x.com/gokulr/status/2107851356019290569?s=20
micro1, the AI training data company Chris and LAUNCH backs → https://www.micro1.ai
Vercel’s data on companies shifting to open-weight models → https://vercel.com/i/open-weight-models
Instinct raises $1B at a $10B valuation (SiliconANGLE) → https://siliconangle.com/2026/09/28/everyday-personal-ai-assistant-startup-instinct-raises-1b-at-10b-valuation/
Meta introduces Muse, its personal AI agent → https://about.fb.com/news/2026/09/introducing-muse-personal-ai-agent/
Wajo, maker of the Fo agent Kanu uses → https://wajo.ai
Factory’s CEO accuses his board adviser of spying for Cognition (TechCrunch) → https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/30/factory-ceo-just-accused-his-vc-board-advisor-of-spying-for-cognition/
xAI rents its Colossus 1 data center to Anthropic (Data Center Dynamics) → https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/musk-spacex-xai-is-actively-seeking-more-ai-compute-customers-following-anthropic-deal/
Bending Spoons agrees to buy Miro, weeks after Airtable → https://investors.bendingspoons.com/newsroom/bending-spoons-agrees-to-acquire-miro
The FCC’s new rule on foreign-made robots → https://www.fcc.gov/covered-list-faqs-robots-inverters
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0:00 VC roundtable with guest host Deedy Das
1:23 If your work depends on conversations - interviews, meetings, calls - you need a Plaud NotePin S. You can check it out at https://plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!
2:11 OpenAI's math results and what's left to invest in
5:10 Formalizing taxes and code so AI can prove its work
6:37 Why science breakthroughs still need the real world
9:44 Odoo: The all-in-one business platform. Your first app is free! Get started today at https://Odoo.com/twist
10:54 Can startups compete with the labs on compute?
13:02 Private data and vertical AI as the moat
18:54 Would you invest in AI training data companies?
20:34 Got a new business idea? Northwest Registered Agent helps you bring it to life. Get a free domain, email, phone number, and more - with no purchase required! - Learn more at www.northwestregisteredagent.com/twistdomain
26:29 What a great founder looks like in the AI era
29:13 Quo (formerly OpenPhone) gives you a clean, modern way to handle every customer call, text, and thread all in one place. Try it free at https://quo.com/TWiST
34:35 Is Instinct worth $10 billion?
41:31 Can Muse reach a billion daily users?
44:49 Favorite personal agent use cases
49:06 What happens when everyone's agent makes the same call
53:17 Factory vs. Cognition and VCs backing rivals
1:03:49 Is SaaS still worth venture money?
1:09:49 Where the panel gets its information
1:14:45 What a seed fund means in 2026
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07/10/2026 | 1 h 10 minThis Week In Startups is made possible by:
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Today’s show:
The smarter AI gets, the more it just does the work for you, and the less helpful it becomes as a tutor.
Shan Reddy of Aristotle joins Jason to demo a voice-first tutor built to run a session the way a $200-an-hour human tutor would. We also dive into why frontier models are trained to hand you answers rather than build real understanding.
PLUS, in Ask Jason, an incoming Fordham student (Jason’s alma mater!) wants to prepare for a career in finance. Plus, David from NYU calls back and wants to discuss what everyone would do with $500K in free money. Then, why does Jason think the Doomerism is coming from inside the AI labs?
Guests:
Shan Reddy on X: https://x.com/rshanreddy
Aristotle: https://www.heyaristotle.com/
Relevant Links:
Shoe Dog by Phil Knight → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_Dog
Something Like an Autobiography by Akira Kurosawa → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Like_an_Autobiography
Einstein: His Life and Universe by Walter Isaacson, which Dovid is reading now → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein:_His_Life_and_Universe
Gartner, Jason's example of firms doing research on behalf of corporations → https://www.gartner.com/
"Religious Scholars Met With Anthropic. What They Heard Stunned Them." by Elizabeth Dias, The New York Times, Sept. 29, 2026; the story Lon brings up → https://www.inquirer.com/news/nation-world/religious-leaders-met-with-anthropic-20260930.html
David Sacks accuses Anthropic of a "regulatory capture strategy based on fear-mongering"; the line Lon references (Bloomberg Law) → https://news.bloomberglaw.com/artificial-intelligence/anthropic-is-running-a-strategy-based-on-fear-mongering-sacks
Aristotle's $5M seed round (PR Newswire) → https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aristotle-secures-5m-to-replace-the-chatbot-with-high-dosage-ai-tutoring-for-students-302880500.html
"The 2 Sigma Problem" by Benjamin Bloom (1984), original paper → https://web.mit.edu/5.95/readings/bloom-two-sigma.pdf
Journal record (Educational Researcher / SAGE) → https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3102/0013189X013006004
NYC's AI moratorium through 8th grade (ABC News) → https://abcnews.com/Technology/new-york-city-public-schools-banning-ai-middle/story?id=136134872
Alpha School → https://www.alpha.school
Brilliant's origin story at the LAUNCH Festival (NPR) → https://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/07/23/203677692/giving-brightest-kids-the-cram-school-experience-online
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0:00 Live Ask Jason kicks off
0:14 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin S. You can check it out at https://plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!
0:56 Fordham-bound caller asks how to break into finance in the AI era
5:15 Jason's gift: read one biography a month
9:22 Vanta: Get $1000 off your SOC 2 at https://www.vanta.com/twist
11:22 Returning caller David: what would you do with $500K?
19:09 DigitalOcean: Want to see what building on a true AI-native platform looks like? Head to https://do.co/twist to start building on DigitalOcean's AI-Native Cloud today - and cut your AI workload costs by up to 50%.
23:56 Bringing an AI protein folding tool into drug discovery
26:35 How to do customer discovery with big companies
29:00 The "dark arts" of market research and corporate intelligence
29:29 Sentry: Your team should be focused on shipping features - not chasing down bugs. New users can get $240 in free credits when they go to https://sentry.io/twist and use the code TWIST26
32:59 Is AI fear a dark PR campaign?
34:17 Anthropic meets with religious scholars
40:01 Are AI labs living through an Oppenheimer moment?
42:06 Why we need to talk about AI's upside in education
43:47 Sean Ready, co-founder and CEO of Aristotle, joins
44:58 Why AI models are getting worse at teaching
47:09 Aristotle demo: a voice AI tutor for AP Calculus
50:29 Predicting the next best teaching action
53:32 Bloom's two sigma problem and one-on-one tutoring
54:38 Aristotle's business model and pricing
57:09 Building a tutoring harness vs. relying on frontier labs
1:00:21 Why dyslexic students love Aristotle
1:01:56 Hand-grading thousands of hours of tutoring sessions
1:04:22 Socialization, classrooms and the future of public education
1:08:32 Where to try Aristotle and open roles
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