Gray Divorce (after 50) & Adult Children: The Fallout for the Family, with Oprah and Leading Experts
Oprah is joined by a live audience in New York City for a candid conversation about the soaring rates of divorce for people over the age of 50, what experts are calling "gray divorce.” Even though the overall divorce rate is on the decline, the divorce rate for people over 50 has doubled and more than tripled for those over 65. Oprah is joined by Susan Guthrie, a family law attorney and host of the popular podcast, Divorce and Beyond®. Joining the conversation are Lori Gottlieb, psychotherapist, and author of the New York Times bestselling book, Maybe You Should Talk to Someone and Dr. Susan L. Brown, co-author of the studies identifying this national phenomenon, and a Distinguished Professor at Bowling Green State University. We also hear from several women who are in the early stages of gray divorce, have gone through gray divorce and adult children of parents who divorced after age 50.
00:00:00 - Rising divorce rates after 50 (“gray divorce”)
00:02:00 - Expert insights with Dr. Susan Brown
00:03:18 - Why gray divorce is on the rise
00:04:09 - Guest: Family law attorney Susan Guthrie
00:06:20 - Guest: Lori Gottlieb, author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone
00:11:00 - Why divorce feels shameful
00:14:30 - Men’s surprise at women’s “invisible work”
00:16:22 - Is divorce always terrible?
00:19:02 - Divorce as grief and loss
00:26:45 - First steps after divorce
00:30:58 - Impact on older children
00:36:58 - Why few expect to remarry
00:41:50 - When parent-child roles reverse
00:47:32 - Knowing when to move on
Additional Resources:
Susan Guthrie, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast
https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/
Dr. Susan L. Brown, National Center for Family and Marriage Research at BGSU
BGSU.edu/ncfmr
"Maybe You Should to Someone: A Therapist, Her Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed” by Lori Gottlieb, is published by Harper Collins and available wherever books are sold.
https://www.harpercollins.com/products/maybe-you-should-talk-to-someone-lori-gottlieb?variant=40828383363106
Addison Aloian’s Women's Health piece, 'My Parents Got Divorced When I Was An Adult. Why Do I Feel So Weird Now That They've Moved On?
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a63799212/adult-child-of-divorce/
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Building a Billion Dollar Brand with Anastasia Soare and Oprah
Oprah sits down with the “Eyebrow Queen,” Anastasia Soare, to talk about how she escaped Communist Romania and built a billion-dollar beauty empire in the United States. The Anastasia Beverly Hills founder and CEO tells her only-in-America story in her inspiring new book, Raising Brows. Joining them are business mogul Kim Kardashian, Anastasia’s daughter, Claudia—now ABH president and creative director—and aspiring entrepreneurs looking for inspiration from Anastasia and Oprah. This podcast is a must-listen for anyone dreaming of starting their own business and wondering how to turn that dream into reality. This episode is presented by Walmart. Find Anastasia’s new book Raising Brows and so much more at Walmart.com.
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'Raising Brows' by Anastasia Soare
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00:00:00 - Welcome Anastasia Soare, author of “Raising Brows”
00:03:11 – Meeting Oprah for the first time
00:05:12 – Starting out in America
00:09:13 – Lessons from her mother’s business
00:13:17 – Building a billion-dollar brand
00:18:58 – The key to following your dreams
00:19:35 – Welcome Kim Kardashian
00:21:25 – Kim on Anastasia’s success
00:22:08 – What Anastasia learned from Kim
00:24:07 – Scaling a business
00:26:48 – Owning your story
00:29:40 – Doing brows live on The Oprah Show
00:32:47 – Anastasia’s daughter Claudia
00:37:58 – Growing profitability
00:45:50 – Fearlessness as a business asset
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Megha Majumdar: "A Guardian and a Thief" | Oprah's Book Club
In this episode of Oprah’s Book Club: Presented by Starbucks, Oprah and Megha Majumdar discuss her magnificent new book, A Guardian and a Thief, a 2025 National Book Awards finalist and Oprah’s 119th Book Club selection. This exquisitely written novel packs an epic story into just 224 pages. From page one to the jaw-dropping conclusion, readers are immersed in a harrowing journey as two families, on a collision course in Kolkata, India, face the consequences and moral implications of their life-and-death choices. Megha’s evocative, beautifully crafted exploration of our changing world sparked a lively and thoughtful conversation among readers at a Starbucks coffeehouse in New York City. Starbucks' delectable drink pairing for this book is an Iced Banana Cream Protein Matcha.
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A Guardian and a Thief, published by Penguin Random House and written by Megha Majumdar, is available wherever books are sold.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/798984/a-guardian-and-a-thief-by-megha-majumdar/
00:00:00 - Welcome Megha Majumdar, author of “A Guardian and a Thief”
00:01:56 - Oprah describes “A Guardian and a Thief”
00:03:28 - Oprah’s daughter-girl Thando shares her take
00:05:15 - The plot
00:09:08 - Writing about famine
00:13:20 - A writer’s relationship to failing
00:16:20 - Each character sees America differently
00:22:30 - Is everyone both a guardian and a thief?
00:25:50 - How would you act under great pressure?
00:32:00 - What motivates us to do the right thing
00:39:30 - Confronting contradictions in her book
00:40:45 - Megha’s story of America
00:42:23 - Did Megha always know the ending?
00:47:28 - When writing became her career
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How to Let Go after Being Let Go with Oprah and authors Laura Brown & Kristina O’Neill
In this episode of The Oprah Podcast former In Style Editor-in-Chief Laura Brown and former Wall Street Journal Magazine Editor-in-Chief Kristina O’Neill talk about the many challenges—and opportunities—that come with losing a job, no matter where you are in your career. They discuss their new book All the Cool Girls Get Fired which dives into everything you need to know if you’ve recently lost your job including how to figure out who you are without your job title. Oprah shares her own story of being fired when she was let go from being the co-anchor of the Baltimore evening news at age 22 and former CNN news anchor Brooke Baldwin talks about how she dealt with losing her high-profile job. We also hear from another woman who says she learned to bounce back better after losing her corporate role of 34 years.
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How to Let Go after Being Let Go with Oprah and authors Laura Brown & Kristina O’Neill
In this episode of The Oprah Podcast former In Style Editor-in-Chief Laura Brown and former Wall Street Journal Magazine Editor-in-Chief Kristina O’Neill talk about the many challenges—and opportunities—that come with losing a job, no matter where you are in your career. They discuss their new book All the Cool Girls Get Fired which dives into everything you need to know if you’ve recently lost your job including how to figure out who you are without your job title. Oprah shares her own story of being fired when she was let go from being the co-anchor of the Baltimore evening news at age 22 and former CNN news anchor Brooke Baldwin talks about how she dealt with losing her high-profile job. We also hear from another woman who says she learned to bounce back better after losing her corporate role of 34 years.
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The Oprah Podcast is home to all-new conversations featuring Oprah Winfrey and today’s foremost thought leaders, global newsmakers, best-selling authors, visionaries and cultural changemakers. Exploring timely themes, including happiness, resilience, consciousness and connection, the weekly series aims to help listeners on their journey to lead their best life. Oprah talks to people about what matters most to them in this moment. Every month, she will feature interviews with authors called ‘Oprah’s Book Club Presented by Starbucks’ with live audiences in Starbucks across the country.
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