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  • The GTMnow Podcast

    How Figma Scaled From $2M to IPO | Kyle Parrish (First Sales Hire)

    22/04/2026 | 47 min
    Kyle Parrish joined Figma as the first-ever sales hire when the company was doing $2M in ARR and helped scale it to $950M ARR. Figma then went on to IPO (FIG).
    But the path there was anything but smooth.

    In this episode, Kyle breaks down what it actually took to build Figma's enterprise sales motion from scratch, including the no-discount rule that made procurement teams furious, the 40-hour interview weeks when hiring felt impossible to keep up with, and what it was like to lead a 300-person team through a failed $20B Adobe acquisition, and then have their best year immediately after.

    We cover:
    - Why Figma refused to discount, even when Microsoft pushed back
    - How to hire the right first sales rep as a founder
    - The PLG to enterprise transition most companies get wrong
    - What the Adobe deal collapse actually felt like from the inside
    - How Figma went from 3 products to 8 overnight and launched into an IPO
    - What great sales look like in the AI era

    Timestamp:
    0:00 – Intro
    1:02 – Guest intro: Kyle Parrish
    1:35 – Joining Figma at $2M ARR in 2018
    5:01 – First meeting with Dylan (Figma CEO)
    6:13 – How to find your first sales hire
    9:05 – Stage alignment in early hiring
    11:43 – Early-stage operators need "scar tissue"
    13:19 – Northstar metric at Figma
    14:13 – Obsessing over customer conversations
    16:44 – Building Figma's brand through community
    17:31 – Scaling the "unscalable"
    20:08 – In-person GTM vs. digital
    22:47 – Was there a moment Figma might not make it?
    24:48 – Pivoting after the Adobe deal collapsed
    28:10 – Figma's no-discount rule
    31:05 – Enterprise ELAs replacing discounting
    34:47 – What makes a great salesperson in the AI era
    36:56 – Missionaries vs. mercenaries in AI-era GTM
    39:47 – Spotting the next Dropbox or Figma
    43:46 – Kyle's post-Figma investing focus
    45:58 – Family, travel & what's next

    Guest: Kyle Parrish, former VP Sales at Figma
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kparrish8/
    X: https://x.com/KyleHParrish

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    X: https://x.com/sophiebuona

    Visit us on: https://gtmnow.com
    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow
    Follow us on X (Twitter): https://x.com/GTMnow_
    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_now
    Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gtmnow_
    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gtmnow_/

    Sponsors:
    Nooks - the AI workspace for outbound teams: https://www.nooks.ai/gtmfund

    .Tech - Domains, where the next generation of builders is planting their flag. Secure your .tech domain today from any registrar of your choice.

    Transcript available under the episode here: https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    Subscribe to GTMnow for the latest episodes! https://gtmnow.com
    For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]
    GTMnow is a media brand brought to you by VC firm, GTMfund: https://gtmfund.com/
  • The GTMnow Podcast

    How Figma Scaled From $2M to IPO | Kyle Parrish (First Sales Hire)

    22/04/2026 | 47 min
    Kyle Parrish joined Figma as the first-ever sales hire when the company was doing $2M in ARR and helped scale it to $950M ARR. Figma then went on to IPO (FIG). 
    But the path there was anything but smooth.

    In this episode, Kyle breaks down what it actually took to build Figma's enterprise sales motion from scratch, including the no-discount rule that made procurement teams furious, the 40-hour interview weeks when hiring felt impossible to keep up with, and what it was like to lead a 300-person team through a failed $20B Adobe acquisition, and then have their best year immediately after.

    We cover:
    - Why Figma refused to discount, even when Microsoft pushed back
    - How to hire the right first sales rep as a founder
    - The PLG to enterprise transition most companies get wrong
    - What the Adobe deal collapse actually felt like from the inside
    - How Figma went from 3 products to 8 overnight and launched into an IPO
    - What great sales look like in the AI era

    Timestamp:
    0:00 – Intro 
    1:02 – Guest intro: Kyle Parrish 
    1:35 – Joining Figma at $2M ARR in 2018 
    5:01 – First meeting with Dylan (Figma CEO) 
    6:13 – How to find your first sales hire 
    9:05 – Stage alignment in early hiring 
    11:43 – Early-stage operators need "scar tissue" 
    13:19 – Northstar metric at Figma 
    14:13 – Obsessing over customer conversations 
    16:44 – Building Figma's brand through community 
    17:31 – Scaling the "unscalable" 
    20:08 – In-person GTM vs. digital 
    22:47 – Was there a moment Figma might not make it? 
    24:48 – Pivoting after the Adobe deal collapsed 
    28:10 – Figma's no-discount rule 
    31:05 – Enterprise ELAs replacing discounting 
    34:47 – What makes a great salesperson in the AI era 
    36:56 – Missionaries vs. mercenaries in AI-era GTM 
    39:47 – Spotting the next Dropbox or Figma 
    43:46 – Kyle's post-Figma investing focus 
    45:58 – Family, travel & what's next

    Guest: Kyle Parrish, former VP Sales at Figma 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kparrish8/
    X: https://x.com/KyleHParrish

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    X: https://x.com/sophiebuona

    Visit us on: https://gtmnow.com
    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow
    Follow us on X (Twitter): https://x.com/GTMnow_
    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_now
    Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gtmnow_
    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gtmnow_/

    Sponsors: 
    Nooks - the AI workspace for outbound teams: https://www.nooks.ai/gtmfund
    .Tech - Domains, where the next generation of builders is planting their flag. Secure your .tech domain today from any registrar of your choice. 

    Transcript available under the episode here: https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    Subscribe to GTMnow for the latest episodes! https://gtmnow.com

    For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]

    GTMnow is a media brand brought to you by VC firm, GTMfund: https://gtmfund.com/
    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other intere
    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
  • The GTMnow Podcast

    How AI Killed the Discovery Call | Sam Senior, Founder & CEO of TestBox

    16/04/2026 | 57 min
    AI isn't just changing how we sell. It's changing how buyers make decisions before they ever talk to you.
    Sam, Founder and CEO of Test Box, joins Sophie on GTMnow to break down exactly what's happening to the B2B software buying process right now, and what go-to-market leaders need to do about it immediately.
    If you're a founder, CRO, or AE wondering why your pipeline feels different, this conversation will give you a clear framework for what's happening and what to do next.
    What we cover:
    Why 70-80% of purchase decisions are already made before the first call (and it's accelerating)
    The shift from discovery calls to validation calls, and how to prepare
    CEO (AI-version of SEO): how LLMs are shaping what buyers believe about your product
    The "day one shortlist" shrinking from 3-4 vendors to 1-2 vendors
    Agent-to-agent procurement: Sam's timeline for when AI agents fully take over buying
    Why the mid-funnel is actually getting longer, not shorter
    The "Fake Nothing, Prove Everything" campaign that went viral post-Series A
    How Test Box runs 15 AI experiments per week across the entire company
    Using Google Vertex video analysis to read prospect body language on sales calls
    How to build an AI-first culture without burning out your team
    Books: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, No Ego, Courageous Marketing, Good to Great

    Timestamps:0:00 - Cold open
    1:09 - What Test Box does
    2:43 - How buying has changed
    5:48 - What founders/CROs should do now
    7:05 - GEO: AI version of SEO
    9:02 - Why mid-funnel is expanding
    21:17 - Agent-to-agent procurement
    26:02 - All procurement by agents in 3-5 years
    29:09 - How vendors differentiate beyond product
    33:30 - The croissant campaign breakdown
    45:50 - 15 AI experiments per week
    47:10 - Analyzing prospects via video AI
    48:29 - Building AI culture in your team
    52:39 - Book recommendations

    Guest: Sam Senior, Founder and CEO TestBox
    Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelsenior/⁠
    Test Box:⁠ https://www.testbox.com⁠

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/

    Newsletter:⁠ https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com⁠
    Visit us on:⁠ https://gtmnow.com⁠
    Follow us on LinkedIn: / gtmnow
    Follow us on X (Twitter):⁠ https://x.com/GTMnow_⁠ 
    Follow us on YouTube: / @gtm_now 
    Follow us on TikTok: / gtmnow_ 
    Follow us on Instagram: / gtmnow_
  • The GTMnow Podcast

    How AI Killed the Discovery Call | Sam Senior, Founder & CEO of TestBox

    16/04/2026 | 57 min
    AI isn't just changing how we sell. It's changing how buyers make decisions before they ever talk to you.
    Sam, Founder and CEO of TestBox, joins Sophie on GTMnow to break down exactly what's happening to the B2B software buying process right now, and what go-to-market leaders need to do about it immediately.
    If you're a founder, CRO, or AE wondering why your pipeline feels different, this conversation will give you a clear framework for what's happening and what to do next.
    What we cover:
    Why 70-80% of purchase decisions are already made before the first call (and it's accelerating)
    The shift from discovery calls to validation calls, and how to prepare
    CEO (AI-version of SEO): how LLMs are shaping what buyers believe about your product
    The "day one shortlist" shrinking from 3-4 vendors to 1-2 vendors
    Agent-to-agent procurement: Sam's timeline for when AI agents fully take over buying
    Why the mid-funnel is actually getting longer, not shorter
    The "Fake Nothing, Prove Everything" campaign that went viral post-Series A
    How TestBox runs 15 AI experiments per week across the entire company
    Using Google Vertex video analysis to read prospect body language on sales calls
    How to build an AI-first culture without burning out your team
    Books: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, No Ego, Courageous Marketing, Good to Great
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Cold open
    1:09 - What TestBox does
    2:43 - How buying has changed
    5:48 - What founders/CROs should do now
    7:05 - GEO: AI version of SEO
    9:02 - Why mid-funnel is expanding
    21:17 - Agent-to-agent procurement
    26:02 - All procurement by agents in 3-5 years
    29:09 - How vendors differentiate beyond product
    33:30 - The croissant campaign breakdown
    45:50 - 15 AI experiments per week
    47:10 - Analyzing prospects via video AI
    48:29 - Building AI culture in your team
    52:39 - Book recommendations

    Guest: Sam Senior, Founder and CEO TestBox
    Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelsenior/⁠
    TestBox:⁠ https://www.testbox.com

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/

    Newsletter:⁠ https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com
    ⁠Visit us on:⁠ https://gtmnow.com
    ⁠Follow us on LinkedIn: / gtmnow
    Follow us on X (Twitter):⁠ https://x.com/GTMnow_⁠ 
    Follow us on YouTube: / @gtm_now 
    Follow us on TikTok: / gtmnow_ 
    Follow us on Instagram: / gtmnow_  

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.
  • The GTMnow Podcast

    How AI Killed the Discovery Call | Sam Senior, Founder & CEO of TestBox

    16/04/2026 | 57 min
    AI isn't just changing how we sell. It's changing how buyers make decisions before they ever talk to you.
    Sam, Founder and CEO of Test Box, joins Sophie on GTMnow to break down exactly what's happening to the B2B software buying process right now, and what go-to-market leaders need to do about it immediately.
    If you're a founder, CRO, or AE wondering why your pipeline feels different, this conversation will give you a clear framework for what's happening and what to do next.
    What we cover:
    Why 70-80% of purchase decisions are already made before the first call (and it's accelerating)
    The shift from discovery calls to validation calls, and how to prepare
    CEO (AI-version of SEO): how LLMs are shaping what buyers believe about your product
    The "day one shortlist" shrinking from 3-4 vendors to 1-2 vendors
    Agent-to-agent procurement: Sam's timeline for when AI agents fully take over buying
    Why the mid-funnel is actually getting longer, not shorter
    The "Fake Nothing, Prove Everything" campaign that went viral post-Series A
    How Test Box runs 15 AI experiments per week across the entire company
    Using Google Vertex video analysis to read prospect body language on sales calls
    How to build an AI-first culture without burning out your team
    Books: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, No Ego, Courageous Marketing, Good to Great

    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Cold open
    1:09 - What Test Box does
    2:43 - How buying has changed
    5:48 - What founders/CROs should do now
    7:05 - GEO: AI version of SEO
    9:02 - Why mid-funnel is expanding
    21:17 - Agent-to-agent procurement
    26:02 - All procurement by agents in 3-5 years
    29:09 - How vendors differentiate beyond product
    33:30 - The croissant campaign breakdown
    45:50 - 15 AI experiments per week
    47:10 - Analyzing prospects via video AI
    48:29 - Building AI culture in your team
    52:39 - Book recommendations

    Guest: Sam Senior, Founder and CEO TestBox
    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelsenior/
    Test Box: https://www.testbox.com
    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    Newsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com
    Visit us on: https://gtmnow.com
    Follow us on LinkedIn: / gtmnow
    Follow us on X (Twitter): https://x.com/GTMnow_ 
    Follow us on YouTube: / @gtm_now 
    Follow us on TikTok: / gtmnow_ 
    Follow us on Instagram: / gtmnow_

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Su The GTMnow Podcast

The GTMnow Podcast interviews well-known tech executive, VC, and founders - the expert operators in the trenches who have ‘been there, done that’ to build some of the fastest-growing software companies. Every week, a guest joins Sophie Buonassisi to dissect their stories, revealing expert insights around what worked, what didn’t, and how things actually went down.This podcast is produced by GTMnow, the media brand of GTMfund - sharing insight on go-to-market from working with hundreds of portfolio companies backed by over 350 of the best go-to-market executives. GTMfund is an early-stage VC fund focused on investing in the most exciting, up-and-coming B2B SaaS companies across the world. The LP network consists of VP and C-level Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success leaders from companies like DocuSign, Salesforce, LinkedIn, Snowflake, Okta, Zoom, and many more.Visit gtmnow.com for more details and to sign up for our newsletter and other content resources.
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