How To Proceed

In this final bonus episode of How to Proceed, Linn Ullmann talks about how the idea for this podcast started, and her thoughts one year later. Emmanuel Carrere's final question to the readers, "Are you happy? And do you think it is important to be happy?", made Ullmann think of one of her favorite poems, Having it Out with Melancholy by Jane Kenyon. Together with the other interviewers this season, she gives you a reading of this poem, as a final tribute to our wonderful listeners, to the silent pandemics in our lives, the melancholy that sometimes fills our hopes and floating moments, but also the hope and solitude, the glimpses of happiness and comfort, the beating heart of the bird.

“Having It Out with Melancholy” from Collected Poems. Copyright © 2005 by The Estate of Jane Kenyon. Used with the permission of Graywolf Press, Minneapolis, Minnesota, www.graywolfpress.org
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In this episode, the French writer Emmanuel Carrère talks to Linn Ullmann about depression and how to write about something that can´t really be put into words, the question of form and truth, right and wrong and writing about the self and others. He also talks about his love for ghost stories, poetry and the gospels - "Christianity," he says, "is perhaps more about being a bad Christian than a good Christian".

Check out our show notes for more on the things Carrère and Ullmann talked about.
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In this bonus episode, Anne Carson reads her poem "We Need To Talk", inspired by a dance choreographed by Dimitris Papaioannou. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For the first time in the How to Proceed podcast, we have not only one guest, but two! Namely poet and classicist Anne Carson and her partner and collaborator, Robert Currie. Together, they talk to guest moderator John Freeman about translating words into other forms, about love, about the color red - and green, and about the strangeness of working in a new landscape.

Be sure to check out our show notes for this episode here.
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Listen to Rachel Cusk reading an excerpt from her 2012 memoir Aftermath. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.