The Bravo Docket

Legal team, this week we are departing from our Bravo cinematic universe and jumping into the world of drag to discuss the trademark dispute between Pattie Gonia and Patagonia. The outdoor clothing brand Patagonia is suing Wyn Wiley, a drag queen known as Pattie Gonia, for trademark infringement and for breaching their 2022 informal agreement. We break down what trademark really means, what each side is arguing, and how to not infringe on trademark rights. We also provide examples of other trademark disputes between creators and big companies that might help us predict this case's outcome. Hopefully by the end of this episode, you’ll have a better understanding of how trademark laws work. And Cesie gives a recap of her Watch What Happens Live experience, including her interaction with Andy Cohen!

What’s on the docket?
Recap of Cesie’s WWHL experience, including her conversation with Andy Cohen
Why we have this podcast
What is the definition of a trademark
What it means to be in commerce
How to establish trademark rights and how to avoid infringing on them
What is constructive notice
How to search for trademarks
Ghost kitchen case, an example of how to lose trademark rights
Who is Pattie Gonia/Wyn Wiley
Overview of the case and why there’s conflict
Patagonia’s arguments
Email in 2022 and the evidence of an agreement
Why this matters so much to Patagonia
Public statements made by both sides
Lexie Love and the AI artist who registered federal trademark
Pattie Gonia’s open letter on her website and instagram
Hurdles that Patagonia will face
The North Face vs. The South Butt case and the pure parody argument
Our thoughts on the case
Consumer surveys and evidence of actual confusion
My Other bag vs. Louis Vuitton case
Jan Sport and Jansport collaboration example

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Legal team, we’ve got yet another divorce update episode for you this week. After filing for divorce last year, Dorit Kemsley has been refusing to cooperate with PK on the impending foreclosure of their Adlon property, and has faced backlash from both PK and the public on her lavish spending habits. While we go through in detail what PK’s requests and frustrations are, we do not have Dorit’s side of the story yet - although we have come to the decision that everyone ultimately sucks in this situation. Please don't judge our British accents too harshly while we read out loud the personal text exchanges between Dorit, PK...and their children. And make sure to listen to the end of the episode to hear an update on Kandi Burruss’ divorce!
What’s on the docket?
Our opinions on Dorit’s situation and public discourse
RHOBH double standards
Details of Dorit’s and PK's divorce petitions
PK’s arguments and concerns about Dorit’s spending habits
Why you should have financial knowledge and backup plans in case of divorce
Background on PK’s financial mistakes
Justin Levine’s declaration—a mutual friend of Dorit and PK
Personal text message exchanges between PK and Dorit, including messages sent through their children
Dorit’s recent financial records from Bank of America, issued through a subpoena
Kandi Burruss’ divorce update

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Legal team - we’re back this week to discuss the messy divorces of Atlanta housewife Drew Sidora and husband, Ralph Pittman, as well as RHOA alum Kim Zolciak and ex-husband, Kroy Biermann. We get into the most recent court filings and orders, the claims against spouses, details on the latest trials, and where each couple currently stands. If you’ve not been tuned into these marital train wrecks, don’t worry - we give background to recap what we’ve discussed in previous episodes. Get ready to dive into Dorit’s divorce from PK next week! And remember… be careful who you marry!

What’s on the docket?
Recap of what we knew about Drew and Ralph’s divorce the last time we discussed them
What was included in both Drew and Ralph’s divorce petitions
Reminder of what was included in Drew and Ralph’s motion for sanctions
What happened in Season 16 of RHOA regarding the sealing of the divorce records
The most recent court filings and orders in the Drew and Ralph divorce, including authorization for release of records from NBCUniversal and Truly Original LLC
Details on Drew and Ralph’s custody trial, including court orders
Drew’s arguments against court orders
Drew’s claim that Ralph is intentionally disparaging her publicly, and her evidence for her motion for consideration
The harsh amended temporary order against Drew
Background on Kim Zolciak and Kroy Biermann’s divorce
Kim and Kroy’s divorce petitions (they are on their third one)
Recent news about Big Papa
Details on Kim and Kroy’s temporary parenting plan
Kroy’s claims against Kim for the custody hearing, including the experts he’s subpoenaed
Who Kyle Mauwits is, his divorce from his wife Jillian Green, and how this information is being used in Kim and Kroy’s divorce trial
Details on Kim and Kroy’s foreclosure

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Well Legal Team, we recorded this before the news broke that Erika settled, which is HUGE news and brings an anticlimatic ending to this 4 year-long legal battle . Last episode, we went through the claims that were going to the judge, and now we are tackling the claims that were going to the jury. Even though the trial won’t take place, we hope this episode still provides knowledge and understanding around why this $25 million lawsuit was sold, what claims against Erika were being pursued by the plaintiff, the key witnesses from each side, and what Erika’s defenses would have been.

What’s on the docket?
Proposed duration of the trial
Who are the key witnesses
Background on how expert witnesses are paid/handled
The claims going to the jury
The plaintiff's key evidence
How plaintiff must prove that the transfers to EJ Global were fraudulent
Breaking down avoidance of fraudulent transfers and constructive intent
How plaintiff must prove that using the embezzled client trust account funds and firm operational funds to pay for the personal expenses constitutes a wrongful disposition of Girardi Keese property
What Erika’s attorneys’ arguments will be
Account stated claims and what they entail
Why was the lawsuit even sold at all
What jury selection is like
What does the jury questionnaire look like for this case
Erika’s attorney’s complaints about not having proper information to submit on time
Erika’s attorney’s and plaintiff’s motions in limine

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Legal team - there’s a new Erika Jayne trial to discuss! In this episode, we break down the legal claims against Erika Jayne, what evidence the plaintiff has to back up these claims, and what Erika’s defenses are. Is she liable for the $25 million dollars sent to EJ Global? Or will she be able to use an “alter ego” defense to maintain her innocence? We’ll be following along closely…

What’s on the docket?
What Erika’s trial is about
Summary of Girardi & Keese law firm bankruptcy
What are the legal claims against Erika
Why was there a successor in interest that’s taking over prosecuting claims against Erika, who they are, and how they are related to Marco Marco
What Erika’s defenses are
What the plaintiff is claiming the evidence is
IOLTA/client trust accounts - what they are and how they were used between Girardi Keese and EJ Global
Background about Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi’s marriage
Tom Girardi’s verdict and sentencing
Why Erika Jayne’s LLC “EJ Global” might not protect her from liability
How payment to EJ Global from Girardi Keese was conducted
Erika’s alter ego defense and distancing herself from EJ Global and The Pretty Mess

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