Snake Talk

Romey Swanson spent his childhood bringing frogs and snakes home in his pockets. Years later, that fascination with wildlife led him on an ambitious quest across Texas: to find as many reptile and amphibian species as possible in a single “big year.”

In this episode, Dr. Jenkins sits down with Romey, Executive Director of the Devils River Conservancy, to discuss his journey from wildlife-obsessed kid to conservation leader. Inspired by the birding world’s legendary “big year” competitions, Romey set out to document all 230-plus species of reptiles and amphibians in Texas, taking him deep into deserts, swamps, rivers, and backroads across the state. By the end of the effort, he had documented an astonishing 177 species, more than 30 above the previous known record!  They also discuss the Devils River Conservancy and the effort to conserve hundreds of thousands of acres within one of Texas’s most ecologically important watersheds.

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In this episode of the Snake Talk Podcast, discover what happens when a lifelong love of art collides with a fascination for snakes. Dr. Chris Jenkins sits down with Samantha Mancino, a tattoo artist who has built an international reputation for her stunning snake-inspired work. Sam shares stories from her unconventional journey into tattooing, from growing up immersed in art to road-tripping across the country while learning the craft along the way. She also reflects on how encountering her first wild rattlesnake left a lasting impression that continues to shape her art today.

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In this episode Dr. Jenkins sits down with Dr. Sarah Baker, who is an Assistant Professor of Biological Science at McNeese State University. They discuss her time studying Massasauga Rattlesnakes specifically their metabolic rate and various aspects of their reproductive biology. They then talk about her transition to working with turtles and the population ecology work her lab is engaged in with Diamondback Terrapins and Box Turtles.

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What draws a researcher to the murky, hidden world of amphibians?

In this episode of the Snake Talk Podcast, Dr. Chris Jenkins sits down with Maddie Zickgraf, a Master’s student at the University of Alabama and The Jones Center at Ichauway, to explore the winding path that led her into the world of amphibian ecology and the strange, secretive species that now define her work. Maddie’s passion for herps was sparked by childhood days exploring creeks in Pennsylvania. That curiosity grew into a focused academic pursuit, taking her across the country and into a range of field experiences from studying Pacific Giant Salamanders to Chiricahua Leopard Frogs.

These experiences ultimately led her to a technician position at the Herpetology Lab at The Jones Center at Ichauway, where she worked with Gopher Tortoises and deepened her connection to southeastern ecosystems. It was during her time at Ichauway that Maddie became fascinated by the movement ecology of sirens and amphiumas, two large, cryptic amphibians that often coexist in ephemeral wetlands. While researching and trapping these elusive species, she began asking new questions about how they move through and persist in these dynamic environments, a curiosity that now shapes her Master’s research. 

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In this episode, Dr. Chris Jenkins sits down with Dr. Thilo Beck, a recent graduate of the University of the Witwatersrand. Originally from Germany, Thilo moved to South Africa in pursuit of greater snake diversity, and found himself studying one of the continent’s most fascinating species, the Cape Cobra.

Thilo dives into his research on the thermal ecology of Cape Cobras, exploring how these snakes interact with their environment and regulate their body temperature. He also unpacks what his findings reveal about the future—how shifting climates could influence behavior, distribution, and survival for snakes in a rapidly changing world.

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