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• 43: The Parrot Who Saw Too Much

  (WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) In 1870, a dog named Old Drum is shot and killed by his owner’s neighbor in Missouri. In 1457, a sow and her piglets are put on trial for the murder of a child. In 2016, a parrot repeats the words “Don’t shoot!” in his murdered owner’s voice, and many more...Humans aren't the only ones contributing to chaos in our courtrooms. Animal (Court)House. Let’s get into it. CLICK HERE to PREORDER Reb's book: The Book They Throw At You—A Sarcastic Lawyer's Guide* To The Unholy Chaos of Our Legal System, *God No, Not Actual Legal Advice *** Follow @RebuttalPod on Instagram and Twitter! Follow @Rebmasel on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 42: The Venezuela Deportations (Trump's Worst Kept "Secrets")

  (WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) **CONTENT WARNING: GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF TORTURE** On March 15, 2025, President Trump announced the Venezuelan criminal gang Tren de Aragua was conducting "irregular warfare" against the United States and that members would be deported under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. The Trump Administration quickly began deporting people allegedly affiliated with the gang—without any semblance of due process—via direct flights to a notoriously deadly El Salvadoran prison. A few days later, the Trump Administration told a federal judge it was invoking the "state secrets privilege" to refuse to provide any information to the Courts about these flights, the people they've put on them, or what (if any) evidence they had to support doing so. As attorneys in this still-ongoing court battle [J.G.G. v. Trump (2025)] fight to stop Trump's unsanctioned deportations under the AEA, new legal questions abound: Is the Executive Branch blatantly violating Judicial orders? Are we in a Constitutional crisis yet? What is the Alien Enemies Act? What is the state secrets privilege? Were Administrations already abusing it before Trump? Can the Trump administration invoke the privilege to "disappear" whoever they choose? What happens now? Reb gives you everything she knows on all of those topics and more. This is J.G.G. v. Trump (2025), United States v. Reynolds (1953), FBI v. Fazaga (2022), and United States v. Zubaydah (2022). **IMPORTANT NOTE**: This episode is expected to go live on April 3, 2025, the same day the parties in J.G.G. v. Trump (2025) are set to appear in a hearing before Judge Boasberg on his Order to Defendants to show cause why they did not violate the Court's Temporary Restraining Orders. Judge Boasberg is expected to rule on the DOJ's invocation of the state secrets privilege sometime thereafter. The case is ongoing and any further updates beyond April 2 will not be covered in this episode because Reb cannot time travel. Yet. *** CLICK HERE to PREORDER Reb's book: The Book They Throw At You—A Sarcastic Lawyer's Guide* To The Unholy Chaos of Our Legal System, *God No, Not Actual Legal Advice *** Follow @RebuttalPod on Instagram and Twitter! Follow @Rebmasel on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter! *** 0:00 - Content Warning 0:32 - Intro / Necessary Context 6:40 - Background on J.G.G. v. Trump (2025) 8:25 - Secrets secrets are no fun 9:45 - A photo op isn't a secret y'all 13:30 - The Alien Enemies Act of 1798?? Really??? 24:18 - Everyone is probably just stupid 27:06 - DRAMA (WITH TIMESTAMPS) OF (LIKELY) COURT ORDER VIOLATIONS 41:15 - Constitutional crisis incoming 42:20 - Trump admin loves to tweet (themselves to hell) 47:52 - The Hail Mary 53:20 - THE STATE SECRETS PRIVILEGE 53:45 - United States v. Reynolds (1953) 58:10 - The state secrets privilege is...messy 1:05:14 - ABUSE OF THE PRIVILEGE POST-9/11 1:11:30 - CIA "black sites" (TORTURE IN POLAND) 1:14:50 - FBI v. Fazaga (2022) 1:15:05 - TORTURE IN POLAND 1:16:50 - United States v. Zubaydah (2022) 1:20:43 - GORSUCH DISSENT IS...FIRE? 1:24:09 - CONTENT WARNING (TORTURE) 1:26:07 - Zubaydah wants to depose his torturers 1:30:00 - His torturers don't STFU about being torturers 1:39:02 - Gorsuch concludes with a BANG 1:42:10 - The wrong administration 1:43:05 - CAN THE TRUMP ADMIN SUCCESSFULLY USE THE PRIVILEGE? 1:46:18 - SIDEBAR: Another Judge CHEWED THEM UP 1:51:14 - REB'S REBUTTAL  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 41: The Weyerhaeuser Kidnapping

  (WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) An Alcatraz Island kidnapper is hired by the child he kidnapped 30 years later. Listen to Reb snatch the (kinda heartwarming but mostly traumatizing?) details of Waley v. United States (9th Cir. 1949). *** CLICK HERE to PREORDER Reb's book: The Book They Throw At You—A Sarcastic Lawyer's Guide* To The Unholy Chaos of Our Legal System, *God No, Not Actual Legal Advice *** Follow @RebuttalPod on Instagram and Twitter! Follow @Rebmasel on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter! *** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 40: The Talking Cat Case

  (WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) Do cats have free speech rights? How did Blackie the Talking Cat cause this much (legal) trouble? Reb finds out in Miles v. City Council of Augusta, Georgia (11th Cir. 1983). Follow @RebuttalPod on Instagram and Twitter! Follow @Rebmasel on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter! Huge shoutout to Alyssa, our new Rebuttal Podcast editor! *** 0:00 - Intro 2:35 - CASE BEGINS 6:16 - Blackie's lore 12:40 - Blackie takes CASH ONLY 16:23 - Blackie supports the family<3 18:55 - THE LAW 20:03 - THE LAWSUIT 21:11 - Pets need free speech :( 22:00 - Court's Analysis (BARS!) 29:50 - Freak flags deserve to fly<3 31:37 - Court's Holding 32:01 - Wait...what can the court consider? 34:14 - THE BEST JUDGE FOOTNOTE EVER 37:17 - Famous last words :'( 38:14 - REB'S REBUTTAL *** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 39: The No Fly List Is A Nightmare

  (WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) The FBI threatens to put innocent people on the No Fly List unless they agree to become unpaid FBI informants spying on their (also innocent) communities. Why? Because the FBI pretty much guarantees that random, erroneous, overinclusive, islamophobic nominations to the No Fly List will be approved, and since the process is cloaked in secrecy, there wasn't a clear way to stop them. Until now. Fikre v. FBI (2013) and Tanzin v. Tanvir (2020) are only two of many cases challenging the No Fly List’s erroneous overinclusion and the FBI’s islamophobia. Learn about more: https://www.aclu.org/cases/kashem-et-al-v-barr-et-al-aclu-challenge-government-no-fly-list https://www.aclu.org/cases/chebli-v-kable-lawsuit-challenging-placement-no-fly-list Follow @RebuttalPod on Instagram and Twitter! Follow @Rebmasel on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter! *** 0:00 - Intro 1:12 - Case begins 4:11 - YONAS FIKRE v. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (2013) (SCOTUS Opinion 2024) 4:35 - The FBI threatens Muslim citizens with the No Fly List 9:16 - SCOTUS does something correct for once 12:31 - WHAT IS THE NO FLY LIST? 15:02 - What CAN’T you do on the No Fly List? 15:54 - Everything goes back to 9/11, y’all 21:05 - OPAQUE, OVER-INCLUSIVE, INACCURATE 23:00 - Islamophobia in our FBI (pretends to be shocked) 23:27 - Kyle Rittenhouse, Jan 6ers, etc. = "white Christians" = not on the No Fly List...?! 30:26 - Watchlists are…QUOTAS?! 31:51 - WHAT????????!!!!!!! 36:04 - How can we respect the Watch Lists?! 39:32 - More cases pending (like TANZIN V. TANVIR (2020)) 42:20 - REB’S REBUTTAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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