Leading Saints Podcast

• Introverts in the Church of Jesus Christ | An Interview with Adam McHugh

  This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in March 2018. Adam McHugh is an author, former hospice chaplain, spiritual director, and minister, and now a wine tour guide and sommelier. The author of Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture, he is an ordained Presbyterian minister, having earned a Masters of Divinity and Masters of Theology in Greek New Testament from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the author of The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction. Since this interview was recorded he has written a memoir, Blood from a Stone. Adam lives in California's Santa Ynez Valley, and may be the only person published in both Psychology Today and Wine Enthusiast. Links Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction Share your thoughts in the Leading Saints community Read the transcript of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights 4:30 Becoming an ordained minister 7:30 What led to writing Introverts in the Church 10:50 Explanation of introversion and extroversion 16:00 Problems that introverts experience at church 19:00 Understanding the discomfort of personal vulnerability and sharing beliefs as an expression of faith 22:00 Introverts generally prefer depth over breadth 24:00 The power of listening: experience at a hospital 30:00 Introverts and small talk 34:00 How introverts approach dealing with conflict and decisions 40:00 Silence, reverence, and the internal experience compared to active social environments 45:20 Cultural clash of introvert and extrovert leaders: overcoming stereotypes and encouraging introverts to be leaders 48:50 Reaching out to invite introverts to participate The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

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• Creating a Chick-fil-A Ward | An Interview with Scott Rasband

  Scott Rasband worked 15 years in medical device sales and leadership before transitioning to Chick-fil-A, and has spent the last 10 years operating the Chick-fil-A in Spanish Fork, Utah. In the Church, Scott has served as a Young Men president, elders quorum president, bishopric counselor, and bishop. He is the father of five and currently serves as the bishop of a Young Single Adult ward. Links Share your thoughts in the Leading Saints community Read the transcript of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights Scott Rasband wears two significant hats: he is both the owner of a Chick-fil-A restaurant in Spanish Fork, Utah, and a YSA bishop. He describes the values instilled by the Cathy family, owners of the Chick-fil-A brand, and how these values shape the experience for both employees and customers. He emphasizes the importance of local ownership and how it fosters a sense of community and connection. Scott talks about "second mile service," a principle derived from Matthew 5:41, which encourages going above and beyond for others. He illustrates this concept with anecdotes from his restaurant—moments that create emotional connections and leave a lasting impression on customers. Scott shares insights into his role as a YSA bishop, where he applies similar leadership principles. He discusses the importance of being present, allowing young adults to lead, and connecting them to a higher purpose. Informal gatherings, like "Straggler Sundays" at his home, foster community and build trust among ward members. Scott's approach to leadership is characterized by vulnerability and accessibility, as he actively reaches out to members through texts and personal interactions. He highlights the significance of mentorship and the power of creating a culture where young adults feel valued and empowered. 00:02:14 - Chick-fil-A Culture and Leadership 00:04:03 - Scott's Background and Experience 00:05:10 - Positive Perspectives on Young Adults 00:06:24 - Connecting Youth to Jesus Christ 00:07:13 - Chick-fil-A's Unique Organizational Culture 00:09:25 - The Importance of Sunday Closure 00:11:22 - Mission to Be the World's Most Caring Company 00:12:22 - Translating Mission Statements into Action 00:13:41 - Servant Leadership in Action 00:14:56 - The Impact of Chick-fil-A's Values 00:16:05 - Local Ownership and Community Impact 00:17:02 - The Role of Personal Connection in Leadership 00:18:10 - Examples of Chick-fil-A's Customer Experience 00:20:10 - Core Four Principles for Employee Interaction 00:22:36 - The Origin of "My Pleasure" 00:23:09 - The Significance of Culture in Organizations 00:24:26 - Retention and Employee Satisfaction 00:25:38 - Patterns of Gathering in the YSA Ward 00:27:44 - Straggler Sunday Concept 00:28:59 - Informal Gatherings and Building Relationships 00:29:20 - Digital Relationships with Ward Members 00:30:48 - The Importance of Availability 00:32:06 - Mentoring and Leadership Development 00:33:11 - Involving Spouses in Ministry 00:34:05 - Creating a Culture of Vulnerability 00:35:09 - The Role of Surprise and Delight 00:36:11 - Letting Young Adults Lead 00:39:29 - Delegating Responsibility in Chick-fil-A 00:40:39 - Building Trust Through Delegation 00:41:26 - Adapting to Change in the YSA Ward 00:42:18 - Embracing New Traditions in Worship The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson,

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• Thank You For Supporting Tanzanian Latter-day Saints | An Interview with Brenda Angle

  Listen to the original interview. Brenda Angle is an author and a certified faith-based life coach and speaker who has also trained and certified 200 other faith-based life coaches. She has served as president of United Families for Arizona and as an NGO lobbyist at the United Nations. In her humanitarian work, she has served as vice president of Hearts and Hands for Humanity, vice president director of philanthropy for Legacy Giving Fund, and has traveled to Tanzania, Africa for eight years. At church, she has served as a Young Women president, Primary president, stake and ward Relief Society president, stake camp director, and as a service missionary teaching study skills at the Provo Missionary Training Center. Brenda is the mother of nine children and grandmother of 40. Links Gathering African Saints to the Temple | A How I Lead Interview with Brenda Angle Mully Hearts and Hands for Humanity Share your thoughts in the Leading Saints community Read the transcript of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights Brenda tells about the remarkable project she spearheaded: organizing a temple trip for over 500 individuals from Tanzania to the Nairobi, Kenya temple during its open house. Brenda recounts how the idea for this trip blossomed from a small initiative to take a handful of people to the temple into a massive undertaking that involved 13 buses and more than 500 participants, including members of the church, investigators, and even orphans. The excitement grew rapidly, and with the help of the Leading Saints community we were able to raise significant funds to support this endeavor. Brenda shared her awe at the generosity of our audience, which allowed her to cover costs for transportation, lodging, and meals for all participants. The journey was fraught with obstacles, yet the spirit of the participants remained high and their gratitude was palpable. Brenda describes the emotional impact of the experience, especially for those who had never seen a temple before. She emphasizes the transformative power of the temple and how this trip will not only impact the individuals who attended but also strengthen The Church in Tanzania. 00:01:41 - Brenda Angle's Humanitarian Project Recap of the previous interview with Brenda. 00:04:22 - Planning the Temple Trip Brenda discusses the initial idea and planning stages for taking people from Tanzania to the Nairobi Kenya temple. 00:06:57 - Fundraising Success Details on the overwhelming support and donations received from the Leading Saints audience to fund the trip. 00:09:20 - Organizing the Trip Brenda describes the logistics of organizing multiple buses and the challenges faced leading up to the trip. 00:12:08 - Challenges on Departure Day An account of the chaos and challenges encountered on the day of departure. 00:15:20 - Arrival in Nairobi The experience of arriving in Nairobi, including accommodations and feeding the participants. 00:17:03 - Experiencing the Temple Describing the participants' experiences at the temple, including their reactions and feelings. 00:20:32 - Diverse Participants Discussion on the demographics of the participants, including members, investigators, and orphans. 00:22:24 - Temple Grounds and Activities Details about the activities on the temple grounds and the emotional impact on the participants. 00:26:21 - Reflections on Leadership and Opposition Brenda shares insights on leadership challenges faced during the project and the spiritual lessons learned. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman,

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• Literally Becoming a Better Leader | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson

  Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D. is a cutting-edge leadership development author, researcher, and consultant. He helps organizations vertically develop their leaders primarily through a focus on mindsets. Ryan is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling author of Success Mindsets, The Elevated Leader, and Becoming Better. He is also a leadership professor at the College of Business and Economics at California State University-Fullerton. Links RyanGottfredson.com Personal mindset assessment Vertical development assessment Ryan's books: Becoming Better: The Groundbreaking Science of Personal Transformation Success Mindsets: The Key to Unlocking Greater Success in Your Life, Work, & Leadership The Elevated Leader: Leveling Up Your Leadership Through Vertical Development Previous podcasts with Ryan: What About Our Culture is Holding Us Back? Is There a Correlation Between Losing Faith and Moving? The Research Behind Becoming Christlike Is Your Mindset Limiting Your Leadership? What Every Leader Should Consider About Community in Their Ward Articles by Ryan at LeadingSaints.org Share your thoughts in the Leading Saints community Read the transcript of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights Ryan talks about personal development and becoming better leaders through understanding our own complexities and healing. He explores the science of sanctification and the difference between merely doing better and truly becoming better, focusing on our "being side"—the quality of our internal operating system—rather than just our "doing side," which encompasses our skills and knowledge. Learning this distinction can help leaders as they support others who are struggling in their lives. Ryan explains how our relationships with risk, failure, conflict, and even ourselves can reveal the quality of our being. Many leaders operate from a place of fear or insecurity, which can limit their effectiveness and impact. Ryan explores the concept of the "window of tolerance," which refers to our ability to manage stress and emotional responses. He explains how a narrow window can lead to reactivity, while a wider window allows for greater emotional regulation and resilience. Understanding this can help leaders create a supportive environment for their congregations. Ryan also encourages leaders to consider their own journeys and the areas where they may need healing. 00:02:00 - The evolution of Ryan's books and the deepening of his leadership concepts 00:05:00 - Mindsets and the difference between vertical and horizontal development in leadership 00:07:00 - The Being Side vs. Doing Side: The importance of focusing on the "being" side of leadership for transformational growth 00:09:00 - Connection between leadership principles and gospel teachings, emphasizing the importance of becoming 00:10:30 - The role of personal healing in effective leadership and the importance of self-awareness 00:12:00 - The window of tolerance and its relevance to emotional regulation 00:15:00 - Personal complexity and its impact on leadership effectiveness 00:20:00 - Exploration of emotional complexity and self-complexity in leaders 00:25:00 - Examining leaders' relationships with risk, failure, and conflict as indicators of their health 00:30:00 - Contrast between survival-focused leadership and purpose-driven leadership 00:35:00 - Investigating the quality of relationships with self, others, and various challenges 00:40:00 - The challenges of people-pleasing and its impact on leadership effectiveness The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway,

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• Women Leaders in Church History | An Interview with Jennifer Reeder

  This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in August 2021. Jenny Reeder is a historian and writer, currently the nineteenth-century women’s history specialist at the Church History Department in the publications division, and was one of the first historians hired to specialize in women’s history. She holds a PhD in American history from George Mason University, specializing in women’s history, religious history, memory, and material culture. She also holds degrees from Brigham Young University, Arizona State University, and New York University. Jenny served a mission in Italy and has served three times as a ward Relief Society president, including when she was in graduate school and fighting leukemia. Jenny has collaborated on several books about Latter-day Saint women's history and is the author of First: The Life and Faith of Emma Smith. Links First: The Life and Faith of Emma Smith A Place to Belong: Reflections from Modern Latter-day Saint Women The Witness of Women: Firsthand Experiences and Testimonies from the Restoration At the Pulpit: 185 Years of Discourses by Latter-day Saint Women Share your thoughts in the Leading Saints community Read the transcript of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights 2:50 Writing her book about Emma Smith. Her goal was to write about her as a pillar of the Restoration and a significant founder of the Church with Joseph, and to make her a real woman and show how complicated her life was, her commitment, and her heartbreak. 5:20 So many members of the Church have been influenced to believe she was a fallen person because she did not come west with the other pioneers, but she retained her testimony and hers is a story of redemption. 7:45 Jenny's experience with cancer while serving as a Relief Society president during her time in graduate school at George Mason Participating in ward council from her hospital bed Visiting with less-active people and learning to receive service Sending emails and physical cards to people as she was prompted Finding her purpose outside of "not dying" 15:15 Serving is an opportunity to learn, serve, and receive revelation in way you haven't before, and this can be a blessing in a difficult time. 19:00 The goals of RS were to provide relief and save souls. She found relief for herself as she provided relief to others, and came to understand the Atonement on a deeper level. 21:00 Developing relationships that continue: maintaining relationships from her old ward has been powerful for everyone as they have rallied together to support each other through difficult times. 23:00 The Church was never really organized until the Relief Society was organized. Having women involved is significant and they have Priesthood authority in their stewardship. The most beneficial experience is when they are recognized for that leadership and allowed to do what they can. 27:00 Emma's instructions in Doctrine and Covenants Section 25 Emma struggled with her role to teach and had to learn how to lead In Nauvoo Relief Society, you had to apply for membership. It was a step toward being able to participate in temple ordinances. Emma's role in creating the hymnbook, and being the first woman to receive her endowment She was called to be a support for Joseph: significance of the words "comfort" and "office", and of leaving her family to go with him and to stay with him 36:50 The Relief Society was told to create offices to expand what they needed 39:00 Speaking up to have your voice heard: It was not normal for women to speak publicly in the 19th century, and even now women can be unaccustomed to speaking and leading Eliza R. Snow was asked to assist bishops and to instruct the sisters, but she was not accustomed to speaking out, but she learned how to do this and taught others how Relief Society was shut down and Eliza became the de facto Relief So...

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