Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

The Match. Two words that define the trajectory of every physician’s career in the United States. But how does the algorithm actually work, and who is looking out for the applicants navigating this high-stakes process? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Donna Lamb, President and CEO of the National Resident Matching Program (NRMP), to pull back the curtain on one of medicine’s most consequential systems. 

Dr. Lamb unpacks the strengths and limitations of the match algorithm and shares her candid advice on overapplication, post-interview communication, and dual applying. She also addresses the growing financial burden on applicants, challenges facing international medical graduates amid shifting visa restrictions, and recent congressional scrutiny into the match algorithm’s antitrust exemption. 

Join hosts Pooja Varman, MD, Judith French, PhD, and Jeremy Lipman, MD, MHPE for this conversation about the system that shapes the future of medicine—and the people working to make it more equitable, transparent, and efficient.

Learning Objectives
By the end of this episode, listeners will be able to 
1.     Explain how the NRMP match algorithm work and describe both its strengths and potential areas for reform.
2.     Identify key match policies and best practices for applicants and programs.
3.     Discuss the challenges applicants face in the match and the NRMP’s role in supporting equitable access. 

References
1.     Roth AE. The Origins, History, and Design of the Resident Match. JAMA. 2003;289(7):909-912. doi:10.1001/jama.289.7.909
2.     Lamb D. Letter to the Medical Education Community. Published online December 8, 2025. Accessed January 7, 2026. https://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Dec8_Letter-to-Community_JudiciarySubcommittee-FINAL-PDF.pdf
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Robotic surgery has moved from novelty to norm, and in this episode of Behind the Knife, Drs. James Jung and Joey Lew sit down with urologic pioneer and Medtronic CMO Dr. Jim Porter to dissect how we got here, what the data really say about “the death of laparoscopy,” and where competing robotic platforms like Hugo may take the field next. From ergonomics and education to economics and global access, they tackle both the hype and the hard questions around robotics as the future of minimally invasive surgery.
Hosts: 
·      James Jung, MD, PhD, Assistant Professor of Surgery, Duke University
·      Joey Lew, MD, MFA, Surgical resident PGY-3, Duke University, @lew__actually
Learning Goals: 
By the end of this episode, listeners will be able to:
·      Describe key clinical, ergonomic, and educational drivers behind the rapid adoption of robotic surgery in the United States and globally.
·      Summarize current evidence comparing robotic and laparoscopic approaches for common procedures, including where outcomes are equivalent, inferior, or clearly superior.
·      Explain how surgeon ergonomics, trainee experience, and video-based learning influence practice patterns and learning curves in minimally invasive surgery.
·      Discuss the role of cost, reimbursement structures, and market competition (e.g., Medtronic Hugo vs da Vinci) in shaping robotic adoption across different health systems.
·      Anticipate how next-generation, task- or organ-specific robotic platforms may further change standards of care in minimally invasive surgery.
References:
·      Violante T, Ferrari D, Novelli M, Larson DW. The Death of Laparoscopy - Volume 2: A Revised Prognosis. A retrospective study. Ann Surg. 2025 Jun 16. doi: 10.1097/SLA.0000000000006792. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 40518997. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40518997/
·      Yu Yoshida, Yoshiro Itatani, Takehito Yamamoto, Ryosuke Okamura, Koya Hida, Kazutaka Obama, Single-incision plus one robot-assisted surgery (SIPORS) using the Hugo robotic-assisted surgery (RAS) system for rectal cancer, Annals of Coloproctology, 10.3393/ac.2025.00787.0112, 41, 6, (586-591), (2025). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41486916/

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Join the Behind the Knife Surgical Oncology Team as we discuss the PRADO and NADINA randomized control trials regarding neoadjuvant therapy in Stage III melanoma with macroscopic nodal disease!
Hosts:
Timothy Vreeland, MD, FACS (@vreelant) is an Assistant Professor of Surgery at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences and Surgical Oncologist at Brooke Army Medical Center.
Daniel Nelson, DO, FACS (@usarmydoc24) is Surgical Oncologist/HPB surgeon at Kaiser LAMC in Los Angeles.
Lexy (Alexandra) Adams, MD, MPH (@lexyadams16) is a 2ndYear Surgical Oncology fellow at MD Anderson.
Beth (Elizabeth) Barbera, MD (@elizcarpenter16) is a General Surgery physician in the United States Air Force station at RAF Lakenheath.
Joe (Joseph) Broderick, MD, MA (@joebrod5) is a General Surgery research resident between his second and third year at Brooke Army Medical Center.
Galen Gist, MD (@gistgalen) is a General Surgery research resident between his second and third year at Brooke Army Medical Center.
 Learning Objectives:

-       Evaluate the role of Completion Lymph Node Dissection (CLND) in patients with positive sentinel lymph nodes, specifically citing the lack of melanoma-specific survival benefit vs. the improvement in regional disease control demonstrated in the MSLT-II trial.
-       Determine the appropriate surgical excision margins for primary cutaneous melanoma, comparing the outcomes of 1 cm versus 2 cm margins as analyzed in the MINT trial (Lancet 2019).
-       Analyze the impact of adjuvant systemic therapy (Anti-PD1/Immunotherapy) on recurrence-free survival in patients with resected high-risk Stage III melanoma.
References:

Reijers, I.L.M., Menzies, A.M., van Akkooi, A.C.J. et al. Personalized response-directed surgery and adjuvant therapy after neoadjuvant ipilimumab and nivolumab in high-risk stage III melanoma: the PRADO trial. Nat Med 28, 1178–1188 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01851-x

Christian U. Blank et al. Neoadjuvant nivolumab plus ipilimumab versus adjuvant nivolumab in macroscopic, resectable stage III melanoma: The phase 3 NADINA trial.. J Clin Oncol 42, LBA2-LBA2(2024). DOI:10.1200/JCO.2024.42.17_suppl.LBA2
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Research years. Professional development time. Career exploration.
Whatever you call it, stepping out of clinical residency can feel confusing, intimidating, and oddly hard to plan for. 

In this episode of Behind the Knife, our BTK Surgical Education Fellows Drs. Elizabeth Maginot, Nicole Petcka, Agnes Premkumar, Kara Button, Emma Burke, and Michelle LaBella sit down with Dr. Daniel Nussbaum, Associate Professor of Surgery at Duke University and leader in the Duke Residency Research Fellowship Program, to unpack dedicated resident profressional development time really looks like, who it helps, who it doesn’t, and how to make the most of it if you choose to step out of clinical training.

Together, the group tackles:
·       Why “research years” are often better thought of as professional development time
·       Whether taking time out of residency is actually necessary for fellowship or an academic career
·       How to find the right mentor—and why there’s rarely a “perfect” project
·       Practical advice on setting boundaries, saying yes (and no), and managing unstructured time
·       A clear, resident-level overview of funding options, including:
- NIH T32 and F32 grants
- NIH Loan Repayment Program (LRP)
- Society, foundation, and departmental funding
·       What faculty and program leadership look for when supporting resident research
·       Lessons the panel wishes they’d known before starting research time
Whether you’re a medical student curious about residency structure, a resident debating whether to step out, or faculty mentoring trainees through career development, this episode offers candid insight, real examples, and reassurance that there’s more than one “right” path.

High-Yield Takeaway: You don’t need research time to be a great surgeon—but if you want to grow skills outside the OR, this may be the rare window to do it thoughtfully (and even enjoy it).

Resources & Links Mentioned:
NIH Funding & Training Programs
·       NIH RePORTER – Explore active NIH-funded grants and training programs
https://reporter.nih.gov/#/
·       NIH T32 Institutional Training Grants
https://grants.nih.gov/funding/activity-codes/T32
·       NIH F32 Individual Postdoctoral Fellowship
https://grants.nih.gov/funding/activity-codes/F32
·       NIH Loan Repayment Program (LRP)
https://grants.nih.gov/funding/funding-categories/lrp
·        Foundational & Society Grants
(Not a comprehensive list; examples discussed in the episode)
·       Association of Program Directors in Surgery (APDS) Job Board 
https://apds.careerwebsite.com/jobs/? 
·       American College of Surgeons (ACS) – Resident research funding
https://www.facs.org/for-medical-professionals/professional-growth-and-wellness/scholarships-fellowships-and-awards/resident/resident-research/
·       Association for Academic Surgery (AAS) – Resident research funding primer
https://www.aasurg.org/resident-research-funding-primer/
·       American Surgical Association (ASA) – Research awards & fellowships
https://americansurgical.org/awards_Fellowship.cgi
·       Society of University Surgeons (SUS) – Resident Research Scholar Awards 
https://www.susweb.org/resident-scholar-research-awards/? 
·       American Association for the Surgery of Trauma (AAST) – Scholarships & grants
https://www.aast.org/professional-development/scholarships.html
·       Society of American Gastrointestinal and Endoscopic Surgeons (SAGES) – Research grants
https://www.sages.org/research/research-grants/

Helpful Application Resources
·       NIH Biosketch Format & Instructions
https://grants.nih.gov/grants-process/write-application/forms-directory/biosketch

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Abdominal organ procurement is a high-stakes operation that blends anatomy, speed, and coordinated teamwork. In this Behind the Knife episode, the UNMC transplant team walks through the practical “how-to” of deceased donor abdominal recovery—covering OR roles and logistics, key anatomic maneuvers, cannulation/flush troubleshooting, and the workflow differences that matter most between donation after brain death (DBD) and donation after circulatory death (DCD).
Hosts
Madeline Cloonan, MD PhD – General Surgery Resident, University of Nebraska Medical Center (@maddie_cloonan)
 
Evelyn Waugh, MD – Transplant Surgery Fellow, University of Nebraska Medical Center
 
Jacqueline Dauch, MD – Abdominal Transplant Surgeon, University of Nebraska Medical Center
 
Alex Maskin, MD – Kidney & Pancreas Transplant Surgeon, University of Nebraska Medical Center
Learning Objectives

Compare DBD vs DCD donor workflow and define total vs functional warm ischemia.
 

Identify key OR roles and the ethical/legal separation of death declaration from procurement teams. 

Outline the core steps of abdominal procurement, including exposure, cannulation, cross-clamp, and organ removal sequence.
 

Apply a practical troubleshooting approach when flush flow is inadequate

References

 Englesbe MJ, Mulholland MW. Operative Techniques in Transplantation Surgery. Philadelphia, PA: Wolters Kluwer; 2018.

Tullius SG, Rabb H. Improving the supply and quality of deceased-donor organs for transplantation. N Engl J Med. 2018;378(20):1924–1933. doi:10.1056/NEJMra1708700. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768153/

Croome KP, Barbas AS, Whitson B, et al. American Society of Transplant Surgeons recommendations on best practices in donation after circulatory death organ procurement. Am J Transplant. 2023;23(2):171–179. doi:10.1016/j.ajt.2022.10.009. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36695685/

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