The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast

Have you ever been in a conversation and realized somewhere along the way you completely checked out? Not because you wanted to, but because your wiring just took you somewhere else? That's what this episode is about.

Jason VanRuler is back as co-host, and together he and Candace break down what happens when each of the five PATHS communication types disengage. Not through open conflict or blowups — the quieter drift that happens when a Peacemaker decides it is not worth it, when a Thinker goes silent and starts cycling inward, or when a Harbor abandons themselves by over-functioning for everyone else.

Candace talks openly about parenting teenagers and what it took to remember she was the adult in the room, even when the room was loud. Jason shares what it looks like when couples call him months after an intensive counseling session, having slid back into the same patterns that brought them in the first time. Connection, he says, is not something you tend to reactively. It is something you build consistently, and every PATHS type has a particular way of falling off that path.

There are four listener questions in this episode, and they are honest ones: about anger that feels like it comes out of nowhere, about walls built to protect and then impossible to take down, about keeping a marriage strong when your husband is gone for twelve-plus hours a day.

Candace shares what 30 years of marriage actually looks like, including the truth that not every day is a great day, and why two willing people might be the only real secret there is.

Subscribe to Candace's email list and get the free Healthy Connection Guide at candace.com, and get Jason's Communicate to Connect course at candace.com/together.

Life is like a rollercoaster, but it's better when we go through it together.

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Thousands of people go bankrupt every year from medical bills. Andy Schoonover decided to do something about it.

Have you ever wondered if there's a way out of the health insurance maze? Candace sits down for a special interview with Andy Schoonover, founder of CrowdHealth, a community of people who fund each other's healthcare expenses directly.

What started with a devastating loss and an $8,000 medical bill that insurance refused to pay became a mission to return humanity to an industry that has lost it.

Andy and Candace dig into how the system actually works, why the buyer and the seller of healthcare both benefit when prices go up, and what happens when you just pay your doctor in cash. The numbers are crazy: a $5,000 scan for $200, a $80,000 Life Flight negotiated to $13,000, and members saving $77 million collectively by opting out of traditional insurance. Andy also shares about losing his daughter Grace, the two years that nearly broke his marriage, and how both of those experiences shaped what he cares about most.

Listener questions round out the conversation:

Amelia asks how to find your calling in a career, and both Candace and Andy weigh in with answers rooted in burden rather than happiness.

Emma asks the question so many mothers carry: how do you hold a dream alongside the season of raising your kids?

You can learn more about CrowdHealth at joincrowdhealth.com. For email updates and more from Candace, visit candace.com.

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Have you ever known something was broken in a relationship but had no idea how to say what you actually needed to fix it? That's where so many of us get stuck.

This week, Candace and communication coach Jason VanRuler move from understanding the PATHS types to putting them to work, starting with a listener question about a family conflict that has been festering for twenty years. Jason reframes the whole thing: the problem is rarely that people won't talk. It's that they don't know what they need in order to move forward.

The conversation moves through how each communication type engages with conflict, from the Peacemaker who needs reassurance that the relationship will survive the hard conversation, to the Advocate who can throw the whole relationship away for the win, to the Thinker who arrives with a trolley of evidence, to the Harbor who creates so much space for feelings that the conflict never actually gets resolved, to the Spark who surprises everyone when the intensity finally breaks.

Jason also addresses what to do when the other person simply is not willing, and how to tell the difference between what we want and what we actually need.

Two more listener questions round out the episode: a mom whose first-grade son keeps getting excluded, and a teenage girl named Blythe navigating anxiety. Jason's answer to both comes back to the same thing. Confidence rooted in identity. When we know who we are and what we stand for, rejection still hurts, but it doesn't define us. And for the teenage girl spinning in worry? Noting the anxiety and then redirecting that energy somewhere useful turns out to be far more effective than overthinking it.

Download the free Healthy Connection Guide at candace.com, where you can also submit questions for future episodes. For Jason's "Communicate to Connect" video guide, go to candacecbure.com/together

Life is like a rollercoaster, but it's better when we go through it together!

Connect with Candace and Jason 


Candace on Instagram @candacecbure 


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Have you ever been around someone who made you feel like your feelings actually mattered? Or tried for months to get through to someone you love, only to catch one brief moment where they let you in?

That is exactly what this episode is about. Candace and Jason VanRuler are back to continue the PATHS series, and this week they go deep on the two communication types that might be the most misunderstood: Harbor and Spark.

Jason opens up about being a Harbor himself — the feeler of the group, the one who makes space for everyone else's emotions and often forgets to need that space too. He shares the story of a therapist on a bus who had spent a career being a Harbor for others and had never once had one for herself. The loneliness in that is real, and so is the beauty of what a Harbor offers when it's healthy. They also talk about the wound that often shapes a Harbor: being a kid whose feelings just didn't get to matter.

Then there's the Spark — the one who lights up a room, gets every conversation going, and sometimes vanishes the moment things get heavy. Candace and Jason talk about what it actually takes to reach a Spark in a real relationship, and Candace shares what her husband has taught her about patience, cigars on the patio, and the one-in-three conversations that open everything up.

Two listener questions round out the episode: one about a three-year-old who worries too much, and one from a mom who feels like she's losing her twelve-year-old.

Download the free Healthy Connection Guide and join the Together Community at candace.com. Sign up for email updates at candace.com.

Life is like a rollercoaster, but it's better when we go through it together!

Connect with Candace and Jason 


Candace on Instagram @candacecbure 


Follow the Podcast on Instagram @candacecameronburepodcast 


Follow the Podcast on TikTok @ccbpodcast


Jason on IG: https://www.instagram.com/jason.vanruler/


Jason on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/c/Jasonvrcounselor


Website: https://www.jasonvr.com/

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Have you ever told the truth and still felt like the message didn't land? Or held back because you weren't sure how to say it without it coming across wrong?

Candace and licensed therapist Jason VanRuler are back this week continuing the conversation about the PATHS communication types — and this time they're going deep on two of them: the Advocate and the Thinker.

The Advocate leads with what's fair, what's right, and what needs to be said. Proverbs 27:5 says, "Better is open rebuke than hidden love" — and that's the Advocate's whole posture. But Jason talks about what it looks like when the truth is delivered without the right packaging, and Candace opens up about her own Advocate score and a real conversation where she had to say out loud: the truth matters more to me than the fix right now.

The Thinker, meanwhile, goes quiet before they go anywhere. Proverbs 18:13 is the anchor verse: "To answer before listening — that is folly and shame." Someone with a Thinker communication style is processing and fact-checking themselves, making sure what they say is worth saying. Candace shares what that looks like on set and why the people around her have learned to just let her think.

There's also a listener question from Lucia about family members she can barely tolerate, a conversation about letting your kids watch you work through conflict, Jason's "boredom binder" of life skills, and an honest look at what it took for him and his wife to stop arguing in circles.

Go to candace.com to sign up for email updates, get more of Jason's communication tips, and buy access to Jason's Communicate to Connect video series.

Connect with Candace and Jason 


Candace on Instagram @candacecbure 


Follow the Podcast on Instagram @candacecameronburepodcast 


Follow the Podcast on TikTok @ccbpodcast


Jason on IG: https://www.instagram.com/jason.vanruler/


Jason on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/c/Jasonvrcounselor


Website: https://www.jasonvr.com/

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