Jason Wilde joins Homer to push back on the idea that Matt LaFleur does not care enough about winning. Wilde says his recent conversation with LaFleur showed how much losses still bother him, even if players and coaches often compartmentalize pain faster than fans do. Homer argues LaFleur’s biggest issue is game management and late-game finishing, while Wilde says execution failures by players have also shaped those losses. The conversation includes Romeo Doubs’ onside kick mistake, the Bears collapse, Ben Johnson’s record against LaFleur, and whether LaFleur’s Packers have enough talent to be very good. Wilde also briefly revisits Keyshawn Nixon and agrees the Packers are asking him to do more than his ideal role.